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<blockquote data-quote="Caliban" data-source="post: 1079002" data-attributes="member: 284">I believe it does exclude them.&nbsp; If it didn't, it would say that there are other conditions.&nbsp;&nbsp; You are trying attribute far to much meaning into that one word, and using it to make unnecessary assumptions about the Uncanny Dodge ability.&nbsp;&nbsp; No,&nbsp; fog is water particles physically obscuring your vision.&nbsp; Darkness is the absence of light.&nbsp;&nbsp; They are not &quot;kinda-sorta&quot; like each other. Being able to see normally in one does not imply being able to see in the other. You are the one who keeps trying to turn this into something personal between us.&nbsp;&nbsp; You are the one who called the Sages opinion worthless after you specifally asked for it. I understand your concept.&nbsp; It just doesn't fit the context of the rules, and you have been unreasonable about seeing anyone elses point of view.&nbsp;&nbsp; Instead you insist that everyone has to see it your way, and the rule has to be rewritten the way you want it to be rewritten for it to mean what the game designers want it to mean. This was clarified a long time ago, and it hasn't changed.&nbsp; But you won't accept that.&nbsp;&nbsp; Yet you want to make it like I'm the one being unreasonable.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Caliban, post: 1079002, member: 284"] I believe it does exclude them. If it didn't, it would say that there are other conditions. You are trying attribute far to much meaning into that one word, and using it to make unnecessary assumptions about the Uncanny Dodge ability. [b][/b] No, fog is water particles physically obscuring your vision. Darkness is the absence of light. They are not "kinda-sorta" like each other. Being able to see normally in one does not imply being able to see in the other. [b][/b] You are the one who keeps trying to turn this into something personal between us. You are the one who called the Sages opinion worthless after you specifally asked for it. [b][/B] I understand your concept. It just doesn't fit the context of the rules, and you have been unreasonable about seeing anyone elses point of view. Instead you insist that everyone has to see it your way, and the rule has to be rewritten the way you want it to be rewritten for it to mean what the game designers want it to mean. This was clarified a long time ago, and it hasn't changed. But you won't accept that. Yet you want to make it like I'm the one being unreasonable. [/QUOTE]

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