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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mark CMG" data-source="post: 7658668" data-attributes="member: 10479">Right, so clearly there are mixed reports and D&D isn't some sort of runaway success in all quarters.  Not everyone is playing or even thinking about making 5E their one and only RPG.  We collectively established that as fact.Sorry, man, but those lists are relative.  Does that mean 5E did better than PF on Amazon in the quoted period?  Of course.  Does it give overall numbers?  Naw.  There's no real way to look at Amazon ranking lists and call something particularly huge except in relative terms in comparison to what else is on the list.  I fully expect a new edition of D&D to be high on ranking lists for the first year of its release.  As I have said, a success but as successful as expected?  We won't know for some time and there are signs of trouble in some stores and definitely in the area of events, conventions, gamedays, etc.Oh, you had to go there, eh?  (sigh) There's no need to suggest anyone might start an edition war.  I clearly am not tied to any one RPG or edition nor do I care if you are.You do understand that you are precisely making my point, right?  I specifically said that my measure is by events at conventions and anyone can look for themselves.  Other folks mention their own local experience and I added mine as a way to remind folks that local experience IS NOT a gauge for how successful 5E might or might not be.We've agreed the anecdotal stuff means nothing in the big picture.</blockquote>

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