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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Gravenhurst48" data-source="post: 9228886" data-attributes="member: 7018321">Yup, thrice posted mistakenly, while editing on my mobile.Wow, 2008???!!! Dude, 4E Era worse than 5E! OK, let's see, 2008 would be before my two sons were born and I know I was introduced to 5E after that. Out of the blue a bud wanted to try DMing 5E - Hoard of the Dragonqueen, and I gave 5E a whirl as a player. Buds wife had a child so game ended, never completed. That was before the pandemic, so 2015? Had the Dragon + magazine app to keep updated on Dungeons and Dragons monthly 5E articles, lots of free downloads as gaming aides. The app did not have the same charm the defunct Dragon and Dungeon and RPGA magazines had, especially when compared to the Adventure Paths by Paizo who published the magazines before WOTC pulled the license and went paper free; thus the Dragon + app was born, which I deleted because I did not play anything 5E, until I purchased Platinum Dragon Heist from Beadle and Grimm in first year 2020 of Pandemic. I just jumped in to DM 5E, purchasing all core books - big mistake, and jumped back out - never completed adventure. Cabin fever gave me the internet itch, and I purchased many 5E books online. The worst I have read are Spelljammer and Into The Abyss (Car Wars by Steve Jackson Games may liven it up). The Princes of the Apocalypse was ok, usable as an expansion to the original or super module Temple of Elemental Evil. Tomb of Anihilation is ok, and also could be an expansion to one or all the Tomb of Horrors Editions published. The rest of 5E are gawd awful. Looking at my library, I actually own many 5E books, including a duplicate Rime of the Frostmaiden - both copies never opened, never read. (Anyone in Toronto want one perfect condition for 50% off, it's yours. I won't mail it so meet me at a Tim's.)Because of my D&D loyalty, I truly wanted to give 5E a chance, but have moved on to DCC RPG and many Kickstarters, ironically some are 5E with great source material, compared to WOTC material. My comment is relevant to the Thread Topic, too. For me, the Hasbro/WOTC layoff may be a good thing because I have disliked most 5E material I have read and new staff may create better material in 2024 and I return to D&D full throttle. I was suggested on this thread to wait and check out Infinite Staircase in 2024 because it may have a couple of interesting adventure hooks I may want to use myself. But yes, I have  into dabbled 5E since 2008.</blockquote>

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