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[UPDATED] Most D&D Players Prefer Humans - Without Feats!
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<blockquote data-quote="jgsugden" data-source="post: 7736065" data-attributes="member: 2629"><p>Incorrect. Tell me why and I'll agree that you're considering my statements thoughtfully. However, you're uninterested in continuing this discourse.</p><p></p><p>For what purpose? Certainly not mine. For mine, there is a clear statistical implication which I have spelled out.</p><p></p><p>Not following what you mean...</p><p></p><p>Oh, so if you come across a result repeatedly it should be trusted? That's you stance, now? Well, only if you know what you're measuring.It matters to me whether they have a fundamental misunderstanding about what people care about and are interested in usig for their games, yes. If so, they're less likely to make materials that the community wants.</p><p></p><p>As for lkj's comment that basically boils down to saying I should assume I experienced the aberration because there was a study... Heck no. If someone tells you they have a study, research, etc... with certain results, you test it yourself and you get a highly improbable result given the results of the study/research... YOU SHOULD HAVE QUESTIONS. If it matters to you, continue testing to see if you were unlucky. Continue asking questions about the study to see if you understand what they were saying, or if they have a flaw in their analysis or data. If it doesn't matter to you... then do nothing. If it does, do not just brush aside your results and ASSUME they are the aberration.</p><p></p><p>Putting it another way: Say someone put out a study that proved you could win a majority of the time using their Blackjack system. The company with the system is a Think Tank, even. It doesn't sound right to you, but you have some money to burn. You give it a shot and lose big on 8 trips to Vegas using the system. Is it time to co conclude you should ignore your expectations that the system is not right, and ignore the 8 failed trips as just bad luck....?</p><p></p><p>Afterall, what I'm looking at here is: Which is more likely: The statement that more games than not don't allow variant humans is right and I was "very unlucky", or that the statement is wrong.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jgsugden, post: 7736065, member: 2629"] Incorrect. Tell me why and I'll agree that you're considering my statements thoughtfully. However, you're uninterested in continuing this discourse. For what purpose? Certainly not mine. For mine, there is a clear statistical implication which I have spelled out. Not following what you mean... Oh, so if you come across a result repeatedly it should be trusted? That's you stance, now? Well, only if you know what you're measuring.It matters to me whether they have a fundamental misunderstanding about what people care about and are interested in usig for their games, yes. If so, they're less likely to make materials that the community wants. As for lkj's comment that basically boils down to saying I should assume I experienced the aberration because there was a study... Heck no. If someone tells you they have a study, research, etc... with certain results, you test it yourself and you get a highly improbable result given the results of the study/research... YOU SHOULD HAVE QUESTIONS. If it matters to you, continue testing to see if you were unlucky. Continue asking questions about the study to see if you understand what they were saying, or if they have a flaw in their analysis or data. If it doesn't matter to you... then do nothing. If it does, do not just brush aside your results and ASSUME they are the aberration. Putting it another way: Say someone put out a study that proved you could win a majority of the time using their Blackjack system. The company with the system is a Think Tank, even. It doesn't sound right to you, but you have some money to burn. You give it a shot and lose big on 8 trips to Vegas using the system. Is it time to co conclude you should ignore your expectations that the system is not right, and ignore the 8 failed trips as just bad luck....? Afterall, what I'm looking at here is: Which is more likely: The statement that more games than not don't allow variant humans is right and I was "very unlucky", or that the statement is wrong. [/QUOTE]
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