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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 7680041" data-attributes="member: 2525"><p>They are selling really well, getting lots of free press, and seem to be working better for WOTC than prior formats.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And yet tons of people are running these adventures...so obviously it's not too much information for people seeking to run them.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>But people seem to be doing just fine running them.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This does seem to be a common issue. People seem to be dealing with it OK, but there does seem to be some room to improve this aspect of formatting.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Look, every time this topic comes up MANY MANY people say they like the release rate so far. I find it really difficult to believe you've been active in those threads and never seen those replies such that you would make such a patently false claim like "universally disliked". So is it hyperbole, or did you really miss all those people saying they like it? Here you go - I like it. It takes about that long to run these things at one game a week. I have heard of very few people claiming the run out of adventure to run before the next release - that doesn't seem to be a common complaint. I have seen a lot of people say they want more splat (which they are addressing - with more splat in Sword Coast), but it's not a particularly common complaint that people run through these huge adventures so fast they run out long before the next one comes out. In fact, looking at page count, it's about the same rate of releases for long form adventures that Paizo often runs. So, where are you even getting this complaint from, much less that it is universal?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>OK so that is a different argument and definitely no universal. The pacing is such that a one game/week campaign gets through it in just about the right amount of time. It's not too short to run 1-15 in that time frame. As for not liking it - that's fair, but not universal as these things are selling well and being played a lot.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So far they've released at a rate of roughly one book every two months - not every 5. As a store owner, you know this - you got the starter set then core books then three adventure books in your store over that year of time. Why did you represent it as one book every 5 months?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The bigger books have proven, over time, to sell better than the many smaller books. It also allows them to consolidate all press coverage over one product. and match it with announcements in other brand-related releases, rather than spread over several, which diminished the total coverage the were getting.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 7680041, member: 2525"] They are selling really well, getting lots of free press, and seem to be working better for WOTC than prior formats. And yet tons of people are running these adventures...so obviously it's not too much information for people seeking to run them. But people seem to be doing just fine running them. This does seem to be a common issue. People seem to be dealing with it OK, but there does seem to be some room to improve this aspect of formatting. Look, every time this topic comes up MANY MANY people say they like the release rate so far. I find it really difficult to believe you've been active in those threads and never seen those replies such that you would make such a patently false claim like "universally disliked". So is it hyperbole, or did you really miss all those people saying they like it? Here you go - I like it. It takes about that long to run these things at one game a week. I have heard of very few people claiming the run out of adventure to run before the next release - that doesn't seem to be a common complaint. I have seen a lot of people say they want more splat (which they are addressing - with more splat in Sword Coast), but it's not a particularly common complaint that people run through these huge adventures so fast they run out long before the next one comes out. In fact, looking at page count, it's about the same rate of releases for long form adventures that Paizo often runs. So, where are you even getting this complaint from, much less that it is universal? OK so that is a different argument and definitely no universal. The pacing is such that a one game/week campaign gets through it in just about the right amount of time. It's not too short to run 1-15 in that time frame. As for not liking it - that's fair, but not universal as these things are selling well and being played a lot. So far they've released at a rate of roughly one book every two months - not every 5. As a store owner, you know this - you got the starter set then core books then three adventure books in your store over that year of time. Why did you represent it as one book every 5 months? The bigger books have proven, over time, to sell better than the many smaller books. It also allows them to consolidate all press coverage over one product. and match it with announcements in other brand-related releases, rather than spread over several, which diminished the total coverage the were getting. [/QUOTE]
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