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<blockquote data-quote="HonorBoundSamurai632" data-source="post: 7670191" data-attributes="member: 6790888"><p>I have a small issue with the light conversion in the back PotA. I ran home to grab my copy so that, hopefully, I can explain without being ripped apart by everyone (lol.) My issue is this:</p><p></p><p>For Dark Sun:</p><p>It suggests to set the adventure in The Great Alluvial Sand Wastes. Instead of Red Larch, they suggest Kled. AWESOME!! I've always been curious about Dark Sun, but never bought anything about it .... so what are those places and were are they located?</p><p></p><p>For Dragonlance:</p><p>They suggest thinking about which era of The Lance you want to play in, then suggest the best place would be Abanasinia a couple years after The War of the Lance. A good replacement for Red Larch would be Gateway. Sweet!! Dragonlance has always looked great with all that insanely, lovely dragon artwork and that guy with the red cloak and golden-looking skin on the cover of everything. I've always been curious about Dragonlance, but never bought anything about it .... so what are those place and were are they located?</p><p></p><p>For Greyhawk:</p><p>They suggest using the original Temple of Elemental Evil locations. So the Kron Hills and Hommlet. You know, that sounds just as interesting! I've always been curious about Greyhawk, but never bought anything about it .... so what are those places and were are they located?</p><p></p><p>For Eberron:</p><p>They suggest all kinds of different stuff for Eberron!! YES YES YES!!! I've always wanted to check out Eberron, but never bought anything about it .... so what are all those places about and were are they located?</p><p></p><p>And that is my main issue with these conversions to other settings. They do not have ANY 5th Edition material to help us with this. They just assume that we have material from older editions to use if we want to run it in Greyhawk or Dark Sun, or Birthright, etc. If you don't ... well .... too bad. I've, (unfortunately,) just accepted the fact that they will probably never give these brilliant settings the updates we all feel they deserve. The one thing that bothers me, is everyone keeps saying how The Forgotten Realms is the only setting that makes them any money, and that is why it's the main setting. Well, (and I'm speaking from experience,) since the release of the original FR grey box set in '87, this is the ONLY setting to get this much attention. They pretty much ignored everything else. The only other setting to get anywhere near this much attention was Ravenloft during 2nd Edition. Of course The Realms are so profitable .... it's the only one available!</p><p></p><p>It's frustrating that when the core books state that the default setting for 5th Edition is the D&D Multiverse, yet they give us 0 options for Planescape, Spelljammer, etc. What does this have to do with this new adventure?</p><p></p><p>ToD clearly borrowed from Dragonlance. The foreword from Mike Mearls in PotA says that PotA is the successor to The Temple of Elemental Evil. And as others have stated, I wouldn't be surprised if Out of the Abyss borrows heavily from Queen of Spiders. I think it's kind of rotten to take these iconic stories that help build this hobby, and throw them into The Forgotten Realms because well .... it's The Forgotten Realms.</p><p></p><p>One of the things I'd like to see, (since WoTC has borrowed so much from Paizo lately,) is for them to release Map Packs like you see for Pathfinder. Release a map pack of Greyhawk. In it, you would get two 24x36 sized maps of eastern and western Oerth. A nice sized 18x24 map of The Free City of Greyhawk, and then maybe some smaller maps of places like Hommlet, Dorakaa, Greyhawk ruins, etc. The sad thing is .... I'd be more than willing to pay $25 for something like this. I'm not even asking for a setting book. I just want to know where everything is and where it sits in it's respected world. They could do this for all those settings that are mentioned in the core books. Then when the adventures are done, and they move onto the next setting ... we have big poster maps of everything, and all the adventures have the region info.</p><p></p><p>Sadly, as much as I am frustrated with the lack of support for ALL of the D&D Multiverse .... I'll still get this because it will have updated information on The Underdark and The Demon Princes and such.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="HonorBoundSamurai632, post: 7670191, member: 6790888"] I have a small issue with the light conversion in the back PotA. I ran home to grab my copy so that, hopefully, I can explain without being ripped apart by everyone (lol.) My issue is this: For Dark Sun: It suggests to set the adventure in The Great Alluvial Sand Wastes. Instead of Red Larch, they suggest Kled. AWESOME!! I've always been curious about Dark Sun, but never bought anything about it .... so what are those places and were are they located? For Dragonlance: They suggest thinking about which era of The Lance you want to play in, then suggest the best place would be Abanasinia a couple years after The War of the Lance. A good replacement for Red Larch would be Gateway. Sweet!! Dragonlance has always looked great with all that insanely, lovely dragon artwork and that guy with the red cloak and golden-looking skin on the cover of everything. I've always been curious about Dragonlance, but never bought anything about it .... so what are those place and were are they located? For Greyhawk: They suggest using the original Temple of Elemental Evil locations. So the Kron Hills and Hommlet. You know, that sounds just as interesting! I've always been curious about Greyhawk, but never bought anything about it .... so what are those places and were are they located? For Eberron: They suggest all kinds of different stuff for Eberron!! YES YES YES!!! I've always wanted to check out Eberron, but never bought anything about it .... so what are all those places about and were are they located? And that is my main issue with these conversions to other settings. They do not have ANY 5th Edition material to help us with this. They just assume that we have material from older editions to use if we want to run it in Greyhawk or Dark Sun, or Birthright, etc. If you don't ... well .... too bad. I've, (unfortunately,) just accepted the fact that they will probably never give these brilliant settings the updates we all feel they deserve. The one thing that bothers me, is everyone keeps saying how The Forgotten Realms is the only setting that makes them any money, and that is why it's the main setting. Well, (and I'm speaking from experience,) since the release of the original FR grey box set in '87, this is the ONLY setting to get this much attention. They pretty much ignored everything else. The only other setting to get anywhere near this much attention was Ravenloft during 2nd Edition. Of course The Realms are so profitable .... it's the only one available! It's frustrating that when the core books state that the default setting for 5th Edition is the D&D Multiverse, yet they give us 0 options for Planescape, Spelljammer, etc. What does this have to do with this new adventure? ToD clearly borrowed from Dragonlance. The foreword from Mike Mearls in PotA says that PotA is the successor to The Temple of Elemental Evil. And as others have stated, I wouldn't be surprised if Out of the Abyss borrows heavily from Queen of Spiders. I think it's kind of rotten to take these iconic stories that help build this hobby, and throw them into The Forgotten Realms because well .... it's The Forgotten Realms. One of the things I'd like to see, (since WoTC has borrowed so much from Paizo lately,) is for them to release Map Packs like you see for Pathfinder. Release a map pack of Greyhawk. In it, you would get two 24x36 sized maps of eastern and western Oerth. A nice sized 18x24 map of The Free City of Greyhawk, and then maybe some smaller maps of places like Hommlet, Dorakaa, Greyhawk ruins, etc. The sad thing is .... I'd be more than willing to pay $25 for something like this. I'm not even asking for a setting book. I just want to know where everything is and where it sits in it's respected world. They could do this for all those settings that are mentioned in the core books. Then when the adventures are done, and they move onto the next setting ... we have big poster maps of everything, and all the adventures have the region info. Sadly, as much as I am frustrated with the lack of support for ALL of the D&D Multiverse .... I'll still get this because it will have updated information on The Underdark and The Demon Princes and such. [/QUOTE]
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