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Message: <blockquote data-quote="HonorBoundSamurai632" data-source="post: 7670501" data-attributes="member: 6790888">Just to counter this, as I said earlier, the only reason why The Realms has the presence is because since the debut of the grey box set in '87 .... this is the ONLY setting to receive this much attention. 2nd Edition Ravenloft did have a ton of support, but still not as close as The Forgotten Realms.Once Gygax left TSR, there was 0 new Greyhawk material released. There was pretty much nothing until the Queen of Spiders mega-adventure ... which wasn't new, it was just reprinted older adventures all put into one nice, shiny, package. The only new one to come out, was 1st edition's lackluster Castle Greyhawk (which IMO was a dig at Gygax.) 2nd Edition Greyhawk only went to about 1995 until it was cancelled before WoTC purchased TSR, (which is why the supplement Ivid The Undying is a free download .... it was completed. It just needed the maps put in it, but the line was cancelled before that could happen.) When they brought back Greyhawk after the WoTC purchase in 1997, (again ... IMO) it was only because 3rd edition had Greyhawk as it's default setting (according to my 3.5 Player's Handbook.) The last big adventure for 2nd Edition was Die, Vecna Die ... so they need to get people familiar with Greyhawk again. But look how well that was supported in 3rd edition. Granted, everything was pretty much through the RPGA Network, but most of that material is now impossible to get your hands on. Basically, 3rd edition Greyhawk only had 4, (well 5) books for it .... and it was the DEFAULT setting for that edition. Living Greyhawk Folio, Living Greyhawk Gazetteer, The Fright at Tristor, Return to the Temple of Elemental Evil, and Expedition to the Ruins of Greyhawk. That's it. Look at everything that came out for The Realms in 3rd edition.It's now really easy to say that The Realms is the only setting to make any money .... when it's the ONLY setting WoTC puts out on the market.</blockquote>

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