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<blockquote data-quote="Dire Bare" data-source="post: 7670589" data-attributes="member: 18182"><p> <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><br /> <br /> This bothers me not at all. In fact, I see it as a strength. Forgotten Realms is Ed Greenwood's home D&D campaign (yes, I know it predates D&D), and adding cool story elements from other sources is classic D&D. I do it in my own homebrew, and I enjoy seeing it (when done well), in the Realms. And besides, if you don't care for the Realms anyway, why do you care if it "appropriates" elements from other settings? Do you assume that if the Elemental Evil adventure path had not been set in the Realms, that WotC would have developed it for Greyhawk? Where it's been done at least twice before?<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> This complaint, IMO, is valid, but overwrought (in general, not specific to Jester). Certainly, the Realms is rife with powerful NPCs. I agree it is one of the weaker elements of the setting. However, the NPCs did not dominate the RPG products for 3rd, 4th, or 5th editions (some of the novels are another thing), and even so, they are easily ignored.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> I agree to a point that drow went from a terrifying villainous race to relatively common PCs. But I don't blame the Realms, Drizzt's contribution notwithstanding. It's the "Klingon Effect". Super cool evil race migrates to "fights-againt-evil-nature/culture" hero type. I still think drow are cool, just a very different kind of cool . . . but something has been lost, that's for sure.<br /> <br /> I suppose what frustrates me is not that some folks don't care for the Realms. All of your reasons for not liking the setting are, of course, totally valid even if others don't agree or even see some of them as strengths of the setting. What frustrates me is the word "hate". Hate? Really? If you truly hate a fictional setting, then we don't understand each other at all. And there is a very loud contingent of Realms-hate that infests this board and others . . . it's not the opinions that bother me, but the overwhelming negativity whenever the topic of the Realms comes up.</li> </ul></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dire Bare, post: 7670589, member: 18182"] [LIST] This bothers me not at all. In fact, I see it as a strength. Forgotten Realms is Ed Greenwood's home D&D campaign (yes, I know it predates D&D), and adding cool story elements from other sources is classic D&D. I do it in my own homebrew, and I enjoy seeing it (when done well), in the Realms. And besides, if you don't care for the Realms anyway, why do you care if it "appropriates" elements from other settings? Do you assume that if the Elemental Evil adventure path had not been set in the Realms, that WotC would have developed it for Greyhawk? Where it's been done at least twice before? This complaint, IMO, is valid, but overwrought (in general, not specific to Jester). Certainly, the Realms is rife with powerful NPCs. I agree it is one of the weaker elements of the setting. However, the NPCs did not dominate the RPG products for 3rd, 4th, or 5th editions (some of the novels are another thing), and even so, they are easily ignored. I agree to a point that drow went from a terrifying villainous race to relatively common PCs. But I don't blame the Realms, Drizzt's contribution notwithstanding. It's the "Klingon Effect". Super cool evil race migrates to "fights-againt-evil-nature/culture" hero type. I still think drow are cool, just a very different kind of cool . . . but something has been lost, that's for sure. I suppose what frustrates me is not that some folks don't care for the Realms. All of your reasons for not liking the setting are, of course, totally valid even if others don't agree or even see some of them as strengths of the setting. What frustrates me is the word "hate". Hate? Really? If you truly hate a fictional setting, then we don't understand each other at all. And there is a very loud contingent of Realms-hate that infests this board and others . . . it's not the opinions that bother me, but the overwhelming negativity whenever the topic of the Realms comes up.[/list] [/QUOTE]
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