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<blockquote data-quote="Orlax" data-source="post: 7681169" data-attributes="member: 6801305"><p>I'd base the validity of the Hasbro call out on the idea that I don't think the WotC guys are allowed to post on the forums. When Next first started ramping up (as in the very beginning of the play test) Rodney and a few of the others did make a few posts. Unfortunately they didn't always get the best responses from those posts, and some would bandy them about like gospel from above, seeing unintended promises in the words of the post. While others would bandy those words about as proof of a lack of vision (or some other naysayer BS). If I were a corporate PR guy I'd have stopped them from interacting on the forums because it almost always served to stir up someone's anger at the devs, and no matter what they said someone was ready to toss fire. It was either piss off this one group to try to appeal to this other group (originally had labels for said groups bet felt that was unnecessary because there were so many play style variations right at the beginning), or the other way around, and it wasn't really conducive to a constructive process, and it lead to a lot of flaming from all sides.</p><p></p><p>I'm pretty sure, that's why they made the switch over to the surveys (which seem to be working well for them) as their main interaction on gathering meaningful feedback. Between the survey responses (which includes a moderate amount of space to just write what you think is important) and social media interaction on twitter and facebook they must be getting a meaningful amount of feedback and interaction for them. </p><p></p><p>Since the release of 5e, the forums (at least the D&D forums) there have gone on a bit of a downward spiral. If only in participation numbers. Once things started getting written with ink instead of pencil a lot of people checked out because they saw how the game had landed, and didn't like it, which is fine (also apparently there was a ban storm that I didn't hear about). In the general forum its pretty much the same like 20 people on every post, and they just keep looping different variations on the same arguments (which is why certain topics will rule the forum for a month or two at a time). As much as I enjoy participating there, will miss some of the posters that don't transfer this way, and will be sad to see a part of my daily life disappear...I can understand why they are doing it, and can accept that sometimes change can be for the better. I mean the magic forum getting toasted, I can't explain, I literally never even look into that forum, or really much else but the main D&D forums. However, from the D&D side, those forums had stopped being a useful source of feedback months ago because the selection size of respondents was so small there, and a number of the regular respondents left were kind of just there to keep saying everything sucked.</p><p></p><p>I look forward to getting to know this forum a bit better. I may go into a bit of a lurk mode just till I get a feel of the overarching community, but I'll likely be active in the discussion of Unearthed Arcana Articles Sage Advice rulings new player options content (like the elemental evil players companion) and stuff like that. I think I see a lot of home brew here so I might start actually posting some of my home brew items and subsystems here.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Orlax, post: 7681169, member: 6801305"] I'd base the validity of the Hasbro call out on the idea that I don't think the WotC guys are allowed to post on the forums. When Next first started ramping up (as in the very beginning of the play test) Rodney and a few of the others did make a few posts. Unfortunately they didn't always get the best responses from those posts, and some would bandy them about like gospel from above, seeing unintended promises in the words of the post. While others would bandy those words about as proof of a lack of vision (or some other naysayer BS). If I were a corporate PR guy I'd have stopped them from interacting on the forums because it almost always served to stir up someone's anger at the devs, and no matter what they said someone was ready to toss fire. It was either piss off this one group to try to appeal to this other group (originally had labels for said groups bet felt that was unnecessary because there were so many play style variations right at the beginning), or the other way around, and it wasn't really conducive to a constructive process, and it lead to a lot of flaming from all sides. I'm pretty sure, that's why they made the switch over to the surveys (which seem to be working well for them) as their main interaction on gathering meaningful feedback. Between the survey responses (which includes a moderate amount of space to just write what you think is important) and social media interaction on twitter and facebook they must be getting a meaningful amount of feedback and interaction for them. Since the release of 5e, the forums (at least the D&D forums) there have gone on a bit of a downward spiral. If only in participation numbers. Once things started getting written with ink instead of pencil a lot of people checked out because they saw how the game had landed, and didn't like it, which is fine (also apparently there was a ban storm that I didn't hear about). In the general forum its pretty much the same like 20 people on every post, and they just keep looping different variations on the same arguments (which is why certain topics will rule the forum for a month or two at a time). As much as I enjoy participating there, will miss some of the posters that don't transfer this way, and will be sad to see a part of my daily life disappear...I can understand why they are doing it, and can accept that sometimes change can be for the better. I mean the magic forum getting toasted, I can't explain, I literally never even look into that forum, or really much else but the main D&D forums. However, from the D&D side, those forums had stopped being a useful source of feedback months ago because the selection size of respondents was so small there, and a number of the regular respondents left were kind of just there to keep saying everything sucked. I look forward to getting to know this forum a bit better. I may go into a bit of a lurk mode just till I get a feel of the overarching community, but I'll likely be active in the discussion of Unearthed Arcana Articles Sage Advice rulings new player options content (like the elemental evil players companion) and stuff like that. I think I see a lot of home brew here so I might start actually posting some of my home brew items and subsystems here. [/QUOTE]
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