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Upgrading Monsters to Elite - Can Anyone Help?
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<blockquote data-quote="Pickles JG" data-source="post: 5416055" data-attributes="member: 61501"><p>I would not go with recharge 6 it's too swingy (except on a huge pack). I use 5,6 or make it recharge on bloodied.</p><p> </p><p>I also do not figure in sneak attack damage in the expressions- the monster books do not. Sneak attack is instead of a high damage encounter power though so if you add one of those you can discount the bonus a bit. </p><p> </p><p>As an a elite the monster fills the space of 2 other monsters so its damage output needs to be about twice as high - usually through making more attacks, like the sword/bite thing. Often it's worth forcing these to be split over 2 targets to avoid making focus fire by the monster too easy. </p><p>I would make the ongoing damage 5 - 2 seems too fiddly to worry about just keep the overall damage down. This also encourages th rats to split its attacks out (or prevents an overwhelming nova on one character).</p><p> </p><p>96 HP is plenty as are defences of 17 15 16 14. An elite against 3 players is close to a solo vs a full party - so while I agree that elites could be a bit lighter in XP this is more like a Solo encounter. I normally use elites for monsters I wnat to stick around as standard ones can get focus fired very fast. This should not be a problem with 3 players so you might like to use 150% hp for elites & 250% or so for Solo - getting OT though.</p><p> </p><p>Disease has been clarified - the rules are scattered about in O4e but very clear in Essentials. Attacks that "cause" disease now expose you to disease. At the end of the encounter you save against every disease you have been exposed to & catch them if you fail. You only save once per disease ie exposure does not stack with itself. </p><p> </p><p>Of course you are welcome to change this if you want a particularly virulent or fast acting strain.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Pickles JG, post: 5416055, member: 61501"] I would not go with recharge 6 it's too swingy (except on a huge pack). I use 5,6 or make it recharge on bloodied. I also do not figure in sneak attack damage in the expressions- the monster books do not. Sneak attack is instead of a high damage encounter power though so if you add one of those you can discount the bonus a bit. As an a elite the monster fills the space of 2 other monsters so its damage output needs to be about twice as high - usually through making more attacks, like the sword/bite thing. Often it's worth forcing these to be split over 2 targets to avoid making focus fire by the monster too easy. I would make the ongoing damage 5 - 2 seems too fiddly to worry about just keep the overall damage down. This also encourages th rats to split its attacks out (or prevents an overwhelming nova on one character). 96 HP is plenty as are defences of 17 15 16 14. An elite against 3 players is close to a solo vs a full party - so while I agree that elites could be a bit lighter in XP this is more like a Solo encounter. I normally use elites for monsters I wnat to stick around as standard ones can get focus fired very fast. This should not be a problem with 3 players so you might like to use 150% hp for elites & 250% or so for Solo - getting OT though. Disease has been clarified - the rules are scattered about in O4e but very clear in Essentials. Attacks that "cause" disease now expose you to disease. At the end of the encounter you save against every disease you have been exposed to & catch them if you fail. You only save once per disease ie exposure does not stack with itself. Of course you are welcome to change this if you want a particularly virulent or fast acting strain. [/QUOTE]
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