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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 6103268" data-attributes="member: 42582">For 12th level PCs I wouldn't use an encounter above 17th level, and would expect that to be fairly hard. You've got 7 rather than 5 PCs, though, so let's make that 18th.As a solo, though, that that will suck defences-wise, so why not build as two 14th-level solos? That also gives you stages, which I tend to find work better for those high-level fights. You can even set up some mechanism where in the stage transition the players can choose a modest recovery option (in one encounter I ran, in the transition round I let them spend a standard action to recover an encounter power or spend two surges).Two 14th level solos will have around 500 to 600 hp each, or somewhere over 1000 hp in total for them to hack through.Even if you're not using hangers-on you will definitely want terrain, including terrain powers that both sides can use but that give the dragon an advantage (eg because of her fire resistance or flight).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 6103268, member: 42582"] For 12th level PCs I wouldn't use an encounter above 17th level, and would expect that to be fairly hard. You've got 7 rather than 5 PCs, though, so let's make that 18th. As a solo, though, that that will suck defences-wise, so why not build as two 14th-level solos? That also gives you stages, which I tend to find work better for those high-level fights. You can even set up some mechanism where in the stage transition the players can choose a modest recovery option (in one encounter I ran, in the transition round I let them spend a standard action to recover an encounter power or spend two surges). Two 14th level solos will have around 500 to 600 hp each, or somewhere over 1000 hp in total for them to hack through. Even if you're not using hangers-on you will definitely want terrain, including terrain powers that both sides can use but that give the dragon an advantage (eg because of her fire resistance or flight). [/QUOTE]

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