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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Manbearcat" data-source="post: 6107634" data-attributes="member: 6696971">Hey @<a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?20323-Quickleaf" target="_blank">Quickleaf</a>, [sblock]Out of the of-level at-will damage expressions 2d8+7 (16) - Low at-will damage expression 3d6+12 (22.5) - Medium at-will damage expression3d6+17 (27.5) - High at-will damage expressionI would opt for the last (or at least split the difference and go 25 as the budget), especially given the comparison of the bread and butter, SOP at-will moves for Standard, level 14 creatures in Monster Vault.  This is Infyrana's equivalent analog.  She has no other at-wills in this stage so its her "go-to".  As a frame of reference, AoEs "cost" 25 % off the damage expression.  Major control effects at "until the end of the next turn" duration are - 25 %.  Small control effects would be about 40 - 50 % of that cost or roughly 10 - 12 %.  Again, consider the closest Monster Vault analog for Infyrana's only at-will.  This is merely a Water Archon and it is better than Beguiling Strands (Slide has much greater utility than Push).  A Slide 3 is somewhere between a minor control effect and a major.  Lets call it 18 - 20 %.  That would put the budget at around ~ 25 damage; right between medium and high.  This is a mere Water Archon.   Whirlpool <img src="http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/symbol/x.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" />  At-WillAttack: Close burst 3 (enemies in the burst); +17  vs. FortitudeHit: 4d6 + 7 damage, and the archon slides the  target up to 3 squares.Miss: The archon can slide the target 1 square.This At-Will Scimitar attack for a Standard Soldier is 22.5 + a minor control effect.  Roughly ~ 25 budget. Scimitar (weapon) <img src="http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/symbol/x.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /> At-WillAttack: Melee 2 (one creature); +19 vs. ACHit: 3d8 + 9 damage.Effect: The drider marks the target until the end  of the drider’s next turn.This At-Will Freezing Claw attack carries not only a major control effect, but one at (save ends) duration with a minor control effect at (save ends) duration on a miss to boot.  This is 19 damage with all of that control power.  This is probably roughly ~ 28 budget as an At-Will.  Probably 28 * .75 = 21 and then another 10 % budget for (saved ends) and the powerful miss effect; ~ 19.Freezing Claw (cold, necrotic) <img src="http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/symbol/x.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /> At-Will Attack: Ranged 5 (one or two creatures); +17 vs.  ReflexHit: 2d8 + 10 cold and necrotic damage, and the  target is immobilized (save ends).Miss: The target is slowed (save ends).Anyway, that is where I come out on it.  I'd go medium/high to high At Will damage expressions and I'd use Calastryx's breath weapon.  Feel free to go with medium or low as you deem necessary!Also, you asked a question about the immediate action wing buffet effect.  Consider the following level 14 solo brute, immediate action at-will, with reach 3 that attacks not just 1, but 2 creatures, and has a major control effect (push 6 is major).  I'd use that as a guidelines for what level 14 solos should be capable of.  Thrash <img src="http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/symbol/x.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" />  At-WillTrigger: An attack hits the purple worm.Attack (Immediate Reaction): Melee 3 (one or two  creatures); +17 vs. ReflexHit: 3d12 + 5 damage, and the purple worm pushes  the target up to 6 squares.[/sblock]</blockquote>

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