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Message: <blockquote data-quote="wingsandsword" data-source="post: 8149948" data-attributes="member: 14159">I'd love a 2nd edition of d20 Modern, I really liked having a D&D compatible modern-day RPG.  Urban Arcana was a pretty good expansion for it.The things in d20 Modern that people never understood or worked well, in my opinion:1. The base/advanced class system.  People hated having to start as a Strong Hero or a Dedicated Hero or whatever and that they couldn't have a character class like "Soldier" or "Medic" until at least 4th level.  The intent was clearly to make a modular, adaptable class system that could depict virtually any modern character, but players like having their character concept and class line up from 1st level.2. The wealth system.  I understood it, but MANY people didn't.  On the old WotC message boards, I swear at least a quarter of the threads there on the d20 Modern board were people asking about or complaining about the Wealth system because they (or their GM) didn't understand it.  It had a nice concept, to be able to reflect modern finance and credit, but it made things more technical than a typical player was willing to learn.3. Not using Wound/Vitality.  I know this was done intentionally to make it more compatible with D&D for crossovers, but the WP/VP system would work better for a modern-day game, where a single gunshot could potentially take down even a 20th level character.I didn't care much for the Urban Arcana setting though.  It was trying to be a crossover setting from the real world to D&D, but I didn't like a lot of elements of the setting.1. Trying to say the Plane of Shadow is the ONLY plane accessible from Earth.  The Astral Plane (and to a lesser extent the Ethereal Plane) are real-world occult/paranormal concepts.  Trying to say they don't exist on D&D Earth seems genuinely silly and contrived.2. Trying to say there are lots of D&D fantasy creatures like kobolds, ogres and mind flayers running around, except nobody except other supernatural creatures can see what they "really" are and just assumes they're funny looking humans.  I think a world that has become more used to modern fantasy works, like Harry Potter, could do a D&D-in-the-real-world setting that handled the themes better than Urban Arcana did.</blockquote>

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