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<blockquote data-quote="Halford" data-source="post: 4488922" data-attributes="member: 64844">[sblock=OOC]Trying to argue for consistency between various spell description in DND is a loosing battle, there is no such consistency.&nbsp; Held fast simply means held in place, there just is not another air interpretation.&nbsp; The sentence,&nbsp;&quot;I was held fast, but able to move twenty feet.&quot; is essentially nonsensical.&nbsp; I will conceed that you do have a point by rules as written, but I think the intent is clear and always has been.&nbsp; These sorts of quandries crop up in 3.5 books constantly, so when all is said and done its up to the individual DM.&nbsp; I'll hold fast here while I go to work...<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue&nbsp; &nbsp; :p"&nbsp; data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />[/sblock]</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Halford, post: 4488922, member: 64844"] [sblock=OOC]Trying to argue for consistency between various spell description in DND is a loosing battle, there is no such consistency. Held fast simply means held in place, there just is not another air interpretation. The sentence, "I was held fast, but able to move twenty feet." is essentially nonsensical. I will conceed that you do have a point by rules as written, but I think the intent is clear and always has been. These sorts of quandries crop up in 3.5 books constantly, so when all is said and done its up to the individual DM. I'll hold fast here while I go to work...;):p[/sblock] [/QUOTE]

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