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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Raduin711" data-source="post: 4049285" data-attributes="member: 15303">I don't mind the idea of "I am going to use this magic item designed for another class, but there is a real possibility of this failing, or going haywire, but I am desperate and going to try anyway".  I do mind the idea of "I have maxed out ranks in UMD and feats to boost it so no matter what magic item I pick up I can use it because I am teh awesomer than joo."So, I don't know.  Using Magic Devices you aren't trained for by your class should be a crapshoot at best.  I am also not crazy about "pretending to be another alignment" or "pretending to be another race".  I think if a magic item can tell your race or alignment, I don't think there is much you can do to fool it by handling it a different way or saying things in a different way.  "Thinking LG thoughts" is a laughable idea at best.  "Thinking Elvish thoughts" is even worse.But this is just the way I see it.</blockquote>