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Message: <blockquote data-quote="drnuncheon" data-source="post: 505333" data-attributes="member: 96">Some PrCs also give wild shape.  By the rules as strictly written, they would not get the benefit of the vestments either.  On the other hand, when the magic item was designed, druids were the only wild shapers around...Looks like a question for the FAQ to me, but I'd say 'no', because it gives a bonus to an existing ability, and one that the rogue does not have.  (See my answer for the amulet of undead turning below)  If it gave a completely new ability, the rogue might be able to use it by emulating the requirement.That's a good description of the 'activate blindly' use of the skill - but if the rogue knows the command words for the wand, they can attempt to use it 'normally', by emulating spell ability.I refer you to the fact that rogues need to decipher scrolls before they can attempt to use them - surely that wouldn't be needed if they were merely smacking people with them and saying 'Go!'.Roll for both - you might be able to emulate one but not the other, after all.I believe it is subsumed in the attempt to activate the item - I can't find any indication that it takes any longer to use UMD than it does to use the item normally.I'd have to say 'no'.  While they could emulate Turn Undead, they don't actually get the ability to turn undead - so the amulet's bonus is meaningless to them.First, the rogue would have to decipher the scroll, to know what's on it.  That's a DC of 25+spell level.  They get a +2 synergy bonus if they have 5+ ranks of Decipher Script, and a +2 synergy bonus if they have 5+ ranks of Spellcraft.Once they've done that, then at any time later they can try to use the scroll.  They'd roll to emulate the ability score (if they didn't have it) - if that's not high enough they can't use the scroll at all, and it takes a lot to get it up there, because your ability score is the result-15.  To cast even a first level spell from a scroll you need to roll a 26...Anyway, assuming they either have the ability score or can emulate it, they then roll to emulate caster ability.  Their caster level is their result-20.  Obviously, if they fail (roll below 20) they can't use the scroll.  If they succeed, but the caster level is not high enough to cast the spell, then they make a caster level check (DC = scroll's caster level +1) - just like a normal caster, but based on their emulated level of course.  If they fail that then it's a Wis check (DC 5) to avoid a mishap.Hope that clears it up for you.J</blockquote>

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