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<blockquote data-quote="Kordeth" data-source="post: 4848652" data-attributes="member: 5036"><p>IMO, that's excessive. "Bounce off the paladin's shield" is purely flavor text in this instance--the meat of the action as I understand it is "tumble through enemy's spaces* to get to the statue, push the statue over." The paladin isn't actually contributing anything to that maneuver, so he shouldn't have to roll anything. 4E is supposed to encourage stunts like this, not bury them beneath a plethora of required skill checks for every minute aspect of the stunt. I'd allow the paladin an immediate reaction to try Aid Another on the Athletics check to reflect giving the rogue a momentum boost (the old "fastball special"), with the caveat that a failed attempt would incur a -2 penalty instead of a +2 bonus, maybe. But requiring a <em>third</em> skill check for a one-time stunt? Too much.</p><p></p><p>* I'm assuming it was enemies he was trying to vault over, since you can freely pass through allies' squares. If he was just moving through allies' spaces, even the Acrobatics check would be unnecessary.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kordeth, post: 4848652, member: 5036"] IMO, that's excessive. "Bounce off the paladin's shield" is purely flavor text in this instance--the meat of the action as I understand it is "tumble through enemy's spaces* to get to the statue, push the statue over." The paladin isn't actually contributing anything to that maneuver, so he shouldn't have to roll anything. 4E is supposed to encourage stunts like this, not bury them beneath a plethora of required skill checks for every minute aspect of the stunt. I'd allow the paladin an immediate reaction to try Aid Another on the Athletics check to reflect giving the rogue a momentum boost (the old "fastball special"), with the caveat that a failed attempt would incur a -2 penalty instead of a +2 bonus, maybe. But requiring a [i]third[/i] skill check for a one-time stunt? Too much. * I'm assuming it was enemies he was trying to vault over, since you can freely pass through allies' squares. If he was just moving through allies' spaces, even the Acrobatics check would be unnecessary. [/QUOTE]
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