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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 3028085" data-attributes="member: 1656">There are two misapprehensions in here.The minimum manifester level is not the minimum manifester level you must possess to activate the Psicrown.Let's say we have a Psicrown that had a manifester level of 8.  And let's say you're a Psion-3, with a manifester level of 3.  When you activate the Psicrown, it uses either your manifester level, or the Psicrown's, whichever is higher; in this case, the power manifests with a manifester level of 8.  Now let's say you're a Psion-13; activating the same Psicrown results in a power manifesting with a manifester level of 13.What the 'minimum' rule means is that you cannot craft a Psicrown that possesses a manifester level lower than 8.The other mistake?  When using the 'Use a Dorje' aspect of Use Psionic Device, you don't have an emulated manifester level.  You'll either use your own manifester level or the Psicrown's manifester level, but your check either succeeds or it fails.  A check of 19 is a fail; a check of 20 or a check of 120 are both successes, and identical to each other.You only have an emulated 'effective level' if you're using 'Emulate a Class Feature'... and that's an effective class level, not an effective manifester level.  And it's not used for activating a Psicrown.For a Psicrown, it's just the DC20 'Use a Dorje' check.-Hyp.</blockquote>