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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Abraxus" data-source="post: 6258627" data-attributes="member: 6674769">Agreed,But I have new players and I don't like to stop players from using my settings however they choose...I'm going to allow survival synergized with knowledge nature to perform the same function as profession: herbalist in this instance, perhaps at a minor penalty if I feel they are trying to nerf it.The rationale is... there is a little time to kill while the party is resting, so... the druid wishes to scout the surrounding area to see if there is a plant growing that will serve as a component.  If she is going to actively search for one thing in particular, then that's going to take a whole day.  Otherwise, an hour recon of the immediate surroundings should have the potential to reveal this kind of treasure.I have split substances into three catagories...   Moderately common (market value 25-150gp), rare (150-750gp) and exceptionally rare (750gp+).  I will be rolling a percentage die to see if something here is actually present, perhaps 1 roll for each hour spent looking (0-50 no, 51-80 moderately common, 81-94 rare, 95-100 very rare).Then the player needs to take a survival/knowledge nature check to see if they actually find it and can identify it  (DC15 moderately common, DC20 rare, DC25 very rare).Searching for one thing in particular takes a day and no percentage die roll is required, you just take the survival/nature check at a -5 penalty.I'd probably allow Search synergized with 5 ranks of survival to perform this task at an even simpler level, with a further DC penalty, provided the character actually knew what they were looking for.What they do with such treasure is a different story, as invariably it needs to be crafted in order for someone to use it.  They can also sell the material components for a fraction of the market value of the finished product.  Kingdom's of Kalamar Players' Guide does indeed have a pretty solid system for working this out, thanks a lot for that.   If the players ask I would definitely allow hour by hour searches for "common" herbs with an in-game function like garlic or beladonna (DC15 as per above).</blockquote>

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