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<blockquote data-quote="BSF" data-source="post: 1816411" data-attributes="member: 13098"><p>Well, a lot of the rules are right there. </p><p></p><p>Personally, I would adjudicate it as AuraSeer suggests. It must be on the ground, etc. </p><p></p><p>It is noteworthy that the fortress appears facing the owner, but not necessarily in the same square. In fact, it would make sense that it must be at least 5' away to avoid endangering the activator. You would have to determine if that is a magical type affect, or if the activator actually puts the cube on the ground and activates it. (Putting it on the ground would be logical if you also adjudicate that it must be on the ground to activate the tower.) In any event, it would be sensical that activating the tower would take place outside of the dragon, even if the PC were inside the dragon. </p><p></p><p>If you did want to allow it to be dropped, figure out the mass for the tower and treat it like an object falling onto a person. For a tower that size, I think it would be safe to say it would max out the damage at 20d6 (ave 70). I think there is a Ref save to avoid a falling object, but I don't see it in the SRD on a quick peruse. Remember that the falling damage will affect the tower itself as well. </p><p></p><p>The player in question is pulling all the stops out trying to defeat the dragon. I definitely give the player points for creativity. but I wouldn't allow most of the attempts that this player made. </p><p></p><p>Now, if the player had been using planning ahead and shrinking boulders with a Shrink Item spell, I would be impressed. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BSF, post: 1816411, member: 13098"] Well, a lot of the rules are right there. Personally, I would adjudicate it as AuraSeer suggests. It must be on the ground, etc. It is noteworthy that the fortress appears facing the owner, but not necessarily in the same square. In fact, it would make sense that it must be at least 5' away to avoid endangering the activator. You would have to determine if that is a magical type affect, or if the activator actually puts the cube on the ground and activates it. (Putting it on the ground would be logical if you also adjudicate that it must be on the ground to activate the tower.) In any event, it would be sensical that activating the tower would take place outside of the dragon, even if the PC were inside the dragon. If you did want to allow it to be dropped, figure out the mass for the tower and treat it like an object falling onto a person. For a tower that size, I think it would be safe to say it would max out the damage at 20d6 (ave 70). I think there is a Ref save to avoid a falling object, but I don't see it in the SRD on a quick peruse. Remember that the falling damage will affect the tower itself as well. The player in question is pulling all the stops out trying to defeat the dragon. I definitely give the player points for creativity. but I wouldn't allow most of the attempts that this player made. Now, if the player had been using planning ahead and shrinking boulders with a Shrink Item spell, I would be impressed. :) [/QUOTE]
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