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<blockquote data-quote="Larcen" data-source="post: 33166" data-attributes="member: 2406"><p>Ha! Too bad as a cleric of Mystra I need to stay Good. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>My other domain is Spell, so I get Mage Armor. Why a domain would give clerics, who can wear armor anyway, the spell Mage Armor I'll never know...</p><p></p><p>So basically, for 1st level domain spells I get a useless spell, and a spell that's not needed. Ha. Good thing the domain abilities are good. Also, the granted spells DO get better as I go up levels.</p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>My DM would have the captors take everything, I am sure! Ever play the Slave Lords module in 1E? That would be us....</p><p></p><p>And I don't think he'll let me switch the spell either. Bummer.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Right. I agree. I am not complaining on the domain as a whole. Just looking for ways I can make use of what I've got to work with.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Hmmmm.....cool suggestion. Didn't think of that one. And the DM might even allow it. Now to wait until I get high enough level to make item creation worthwhile....*sigh* </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Another excellent suggestion! But (always a "but"), I don't really see my character needing to disguise himself much. He is not really a spy type and the need hasn't come up. So, yes, that is a great use of the spell in general, but unfortunately it may not help my PC directly. Say, maybe I can use it on the party's rogue.....hmmmm......</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Ok, I like it. I wonder how well-known the Nystul spell is though. I mean, if everyone knows a lowly 1st level spell can mask aura's, and they REALLY wanted magic items out, would a simple "patting down" with Detect Magic be all they do?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Would permanencing Detect Magic make it a free action? If not, I think that powerful mage would not waste an aciton best spent on Meteor Swarm. You get the idea.</p><p></p><p>I mean, even if the enemy mage had some free time before the fight, there are so many pre-battle buff spells out there that his time could be better spent on, right? In order for him to spent some time using Detect Magic, I am assuming all the buffing is done, and he still is undetected, and he still has some time to kill.</p><p></p><p>However, yeah, if it was a free action, then I think it's an excellent idea to mask your party's items. Or even if you felt that the enemy somehow knew about a particular item of yours and would be looking for it to take it out early in the battle. So your suggestion can have it's value in certain circumstances I would think. Thanks.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Hey, nice character you have there! My cleric is actually a Cleric3/Sorcerer1, and he rocks for a 4th level character, IMHO.</p><p></p><p>Wow, what a great use for Mage Armor! I like. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> You mean, whenever some incorporeal nasty shows up, just use my Mage Armor? REAL handy. I didn't think of that because I thought my regular armor would cancel out the mage armor altogether because of the stacking rules. But, unless my DM wants to be cruel about it, I guess the Mage Armor WOULD still be there underneath my studded leather, right? Let me tell you, I hope that is the case cause I hate all those creepy, undead, energy draining, ghostly thingies out there.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Why?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>HA! There goes that blasted aligment restriction again! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Man, talk about a rough campaign....!</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I like the ring idea! Too funny.</p><p></p><p>But, why would you use a spell that masks magical auras on a non-magical mummified hand?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Right. Too bad!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Larcen, post: 33166, member: 2406"] Ha! Too bad as a cleric of Mystra I need to stay Good. ;) My other domain is Spell, so I get Mage Armor. Why a domain would give clerics, who can wear armor anyway, the spell Mage Armor I'll never know... So basically, for 1st level domain spells I get a useless spell, and a spell that's not needed. Ha. Good thing the domain abilities are good. Also, the granted spells DO get better as I go up levels. My DM would have the captors take everything, I am sure! Ever play the Slave Lords module in 1E? That would be us.... And I don't think he'll let me switch the spell either. Bummer. Right. I agree. I am not complaining on the domain as a whole. Just looking for ways I can make use of what I've got to work with. Hmmmm.....cool suggestion. Didn't think of that one. And the DM might even allow it. Now to wait until I get high enough level to make item creation worthwhile....*sigh* Another excellent suggestion! But (always a "but"), I don't really see my character needing to disguise himself much. He is not really a spy type and the need hasn't come up. So, yes, that is a great use of the spell in general, but unfortunately it may not help my PC directly. Say, maybe I can use it on the party's rogue.....hmmmm...... Ok, I like it. I wonder how well-known the Nystul spell is though. I mean, if everyone knows a lowly 1st level spell can mask aura's, and they REALLY wanted magic items out, would a simple "patting down" with Detect Magic be all they do? Would permanencing Detect Magic make it a free action? If not, I think that powerful mage would not waste an aciton best spent on Meteor Swarm. You get the idea. I mean, even if the enemy mage had some free time before the fight, there are so many pre-battle buff spells out there that his time could be better spent on, right? In order for him to spent some time using Detect Magic, I am assuming all the buffing is done, and he still is undetected, and he still has some time to kill. However, yeah, if it was a free action, then I think it's an excellent idea to mask your party's items. Or even if you felt that the enemy somehow knew about a particular item of yours and would be looking for it to take it out early in the battle. So your suggestion can have it's value in certain circumstances I would think. Thanks. Hey, nice character you have there! My cleric is actually a Cleric3/Sorcerer1, and he rocks for a 4th level character, IMHO. Wow, what a great use for Mage Armor! I like. :) You mean, whenever some incorporeal nasty shows up, just use my Mage Armor? REAL handy. I didn't think of that because I thought my regular armor would cancel out the mage armor altogether because of the stacking rules. But, unless my DM wants to be cruel about it, I guess the Mage Armor WOULD still be there underneath my studded leather, right? Let me tell you, I hope that is the case cause I hate all those creepy, undead, energy draining, ghostly thingies out there. Why? HA! There goes that blasted aligment restriction again! :( Man, talk about a rough campaign....! I like the ring idea! Too funny. But, why would you use a spell that masks magical auras on a non-magical mummified hand? Right. Too bad! [/QUOTE]
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