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<blockquote data-quote="moritheil" data-source="post: 3532652" data-attributes="member: 30610"><p>The one doesn't have anything to do with the other, but I get what you're saying. FWIW, the DM being combat competent actually encourages RP - most groups are much more receptive to RP if they learn that the DM is a complete terror when provoked by repetitive whining for fights. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /> </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm curious - what do you do with NPC caster feat slots, then? As far as I can tell, nothing else comes close in terms of absolutely needed feats for a caster (well, Natural Spell for druids, but that's unique.)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The thing is, as you alluded, encounters for the same CR really aren't the same at all. A large part of that is how intelligently you play them, and (as others have pointed out) how intelligently the players react. I agree that an int 6 giant shouldn't be great at taking advantage of small details, but sometimes creatures are intelligent, and the way to make that really count for something is to make them tactically savvy.</p><p></p><p>There's also how well you build them, but you don't strike me as the sort of DM to tweak all of his or her monsters to make them not pushovers in a fight of their EL, so I'll hold off on that. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>I'm glad you're sharing this, though - it reinforces my belief that monsters flat-out suck when used as the book dictates and built as the book assigns feats. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="moritheil, post: 3532652, member: 30610"] The one doesn't have anything to do with the other, but I get what you're saying. FWIW, the DM being combat competent actually encourages RP - most groups are much more receptive to RP if they learn that the DM is a complete terror when provoked by repetitive whining for fights. :p I'm curious - what do you do with NPC caster feat slots, then? As far as I can tell, nothing else comes close in terms of absolutely needed feats for a caster (well, Natural Spell for druids, but that's unique.) The thing is, as you alluded, encounters for the same CR really aren't the same at all. A large part of that is how intelligently you play them, and (as others have pointed out) how intelligently the players react. I agree that an int 6 giant shouldn't be great at taking advantage of small details, but sometimes creatures are intelligent, and the way to make that really count for something is to make them tactically savvy. There's also how well you build them, but you don't strike me as the sort of DM to tweak all of his or her monsters to make them not pushovers in a fight of their EL, so I'll hold off on that. :) I'm glad you're sharing this, though - it reinforces my belief that monsters flat-out suck when used as the book dictates and built as the book assigns feats. :D [/QUOTE]
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