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<blockquote data-quote="LokiDR" data-source="post: 931004" data-attributes="member: 6239">Lots of people have tried this, and lots of people try to shoot them down.&nbsp; I see this as difficult situation but one that is workable under the rules.I know that you can, as a free action, switch your grip on a two handed weapon to hold it one hand, then quickdraw a weapon (or use unarmed attack) to hit a person.&nbsp; This works quite well for most reach weapons.Now try to work this on your buckler/spiked gauntlets character.&nbsp; While firing arrows, you don't have buckler or spikes for AoO.&nbsp; As a free action, you can drop one hand from the weapon, and therefore get the use of your buckler or spike gauntlets.&nbsp; At the begining of the next round, you put your hand back on the weapon again (free), fire your shots (whatever actions you want) and then drop one hand off again(free).&nbsp; This is no worse than wearing armor spikes and body slaming people as AoOs (look Ma, no hands)Rule-wise, the only thing that really limits the dropping of a hand from the bow is the limit of DM on number of free actions you take.&nbsp; General armor spikes fix that problem.&nbsp; Also, ready a shield is a Move-Equivelant action.&nbsp; The DM may well impose -2 to all attacks you make as &quot;off-hand&quot; penalties for using &quot;two weapons&quot;, the bow and the spikes/unarmed.&nbsp; A resonable cost for being defensive.Don't let anyone tell you this is munchkin tatic.&nbsp; Munchkin is doing the same thing as a cleric, buffing the hell out of yourself, arrows, armor, and armor/spikes.A feat should probably be required by your DM to make this work completely (quickdraw, improve unarmed, two weapon fighting) to represent the extra training you have had.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="LokiDR, post: 931004, member: 6239"] Lots of people have tried this, and lots of people try to shoot them down. I see this as difficult situation but one that is workable under the rules. I know that you can, as a free action, switch your grip on a two handed weapon to hold it one hand, then quickdraw a weapon (or use unarmed attack) to hit a person. This works quite well for most reach weapons. Now try to work this on your buckler/spiked gauntlets character. While firing arrows, you don't have buckler or spikes for AoO. As a free action, you can drop one hand from the weapon, and therefore get the use of your buckler or spike gauntlets. At the begining of the next round, you put your hand back on the weapon again (free), fire your shots (whatever actions you want) and then drop one hand off again(free). This is no worse than wearing armor spikes and body slaming people as AoOs (look Ma, no hands) Rule-wise, the only thing that really limits the dropping of a hand from the bow is the limit of DM on number of free actions you take. General armor spikes fix that problem. Also, ready a shield is a Move-Equivelant action. The DM may well impose -2 to all attacks you make as "off-hand" penalties for using "two weapons", the bow and the spikes/unarmed. A resonable cost for being defensive. Don't let anyone tell you this is munchkin tatic. Munchkin is doing the same thing as a cleric, buffing the hell out of yourself, arrows, armor, and armor/spikes. A feat should probably be required by your DM to make this work completely (quickdraw, improve unarmed, two weapon fighting) to represent the extra training you have had. [/QUOTE]

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