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Using a Huge or larger mount in combat
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<blockquote data-quote="kjenks" data-source="post: 3008605" data-attributes="member: 12892"><p>An over-sized reach weapon does not grant 20 ft. of reach. There's a FAQ entry on this topic:</p><p></p><p>FAQ</p><p>===</p><p><strong>How do reach weapons work if they are of a different</strong></p><p><strong>size than the creature wielding them? Say, an ogre wielding</strong></p><p><strong>a Small or Medium glaive, or a human with the Monkey</strong></p><p><strong>Grip feat wielding a Large ranseur? What is the reach for</strong></p><p><strong>each situation?</strong></p><p></p><p>A reach weapon doubles its wielder’s natural reach, but</p><p>only if the weapon is at least of an appropriate size for the</p><p>wielder. Wielding a "too-small" reach weapon grants no reach.</p><p>An ogre (Large) wielding a Medium or smaller reach</p><p>weapon gains no reach from the weapon, and could thus attack</p><p>foes either 5 feet or 10 feet distant (as normal for a Large</p><p>creature wielding a non-reach weapon).</p><p></p><p>A human (Medium) wielding a Large or larger reach</p><p>weapon could attack a creature 10 feet away (but no further),</p><p>and could not use the weapon to attack a creature 5 feet away</p><p>(as normal for a Medium creature wielding a reach weapon). A</p><p>human wielding a Small reach weapon would gain no reach</p><p>from the weapon.</p><p></p><p>The Player's Handbook isn't as clear on this as it could be,</p><p>although an example of reach in action on page 113 in the</p><p>Player’s Handbook provides pretty strong support: "A typical</p><p>Large character wielding a reach weapon <em>of the appropriate</em></p><p><em>size</em> can attack a creature 15 or 20 feet away . . ." [italics</p><p>added]. While this reference doesn’t mention the ability to</p><p>wield a reach weapon larger than the appropriate size, allowing</p><p>such a weapon to grant reach to its wielder is a reasonable</p><p>extension of the spirit and intent of the rule.</p><p>===</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The mount's Flyby attack feat doesn't help the rider attack. There's a FAQ entry on this, too.</p><p></p><p>FAQ</p><p>===</p><p><strong>Suppose you have a flying mount: a griffon. What do</strong></p><p><strong>you have to do to use the ride-by tactic in the air or in</strong></p><p><strong>swooping down on a target? Do you need to take the Flyby</strong></p><p><strong>Attack feat? Or does the Ride-By Attack feat cover flying</strong></p><p><strong>mounts as well? For the mount to make a single attack</strong></p><p><strong>when riding or flying by, does it also need to somehow gain</strong></p><p><strong>a feat? If so, which one?</strong></p><p></p><p>If the example rider wants to make attacks while flying by</p><p>foes, she needs the Ride-By Attack feat and needs to charge</p><p>(and fly) in a straight line (see the next question). For the</p><p>mount to attack in the same situation, it would need the Flyby</p><p>Attack feat. <em>The rider's Ride-By Attack feat won’t help the</em></p><p><em>mount attack, and the mount's Flyby Attack feat does not help</em></p><p><em>the rider attack.</em></p><p>[...]</p><p>===</p><p></p><p>I added the italics.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="kjenks, post: 3008605, member: 12892"] An over-sized reach weapon does not grant 20 ft. of reach. There's a FAQ entry on this topic: FAQ === [b]How do reach weapons work if they are of a different size than the creature wielding them? Say, an ogre wielding a Small or Medium glaive, or a human with the Monkey Grip feat wielding a Large ranseur? What is the reach for each situation?[/b] A reach weapon doubles its wielder’s natural reach, but only if the weapon is at least of an appropriate size for the wielder. Wielding a "too-small" reach weapon grants no reach. An ogre (Large) wielding a Medium or smaller reach weapon gains no reach from the weapon, and could thus attack foes either 5 feet or 10 feet distant (as normal for a Large creature wielding a non-reach weapon). A human (Medium) wielding a Large or larger reach weapon could attack a creature 10 feet away (but no further), and could not use the weapon to attack a creature 5 feet away (as normal for a Medium creature wielding a reach weapon). A human wielding a Small reach weapon would gain no reach from the weapon. The Player's Handbook isn't as clear on this as it could be, although an example of reach in action on page 113 in the Player’s Handbook provides pretty strong support: "A typical Large character wielding a reach weapon [i]of the appropriate size[/i] can attack a creature 15 or 20 feet away . . ." [italics added]. While this reference doesn’t mention the ability to wield a reach weapon larger than the appropriate size, allowing such a weapon to grant reach to its wielder is a reasonable extension of the spirit and intent of the rule. === The mount's Flyby attack feat doesn't help the rider attack. There's a FAQ entry on this, too. FAQ === [b]Suppose you have a flying mount: a griffon. What do you have to do to use the ride-by tactic in the air or in swooping down on a target? Do you need to take the Flyby Attack feat? Or does the Ride-By Attack feat cover flying mounts as well? For the mount to make a single attack when riding or flying by, does it also need to somehow gain a feat? If so, which one?[/b] If the example rider wants to make attacks while flying by foes, she needs the Ride-By Attack feat and needs to charge (and fly) in a straight line (see the next question). For the mount to attack in the same situation, it would need the Flyby Attack feat. [i]The rider's Ride-By Attack feat won’t help the mount attack, and the mount's Flyby Attack feat does not help the rider attack.[/i] [...] === I added the italics. [/QUOTE]
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