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Using a shield as an 'improvised weapon' while retaining the AC bonus
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<blockquote data-quote="77IM" data-source="post: 6428709" data-attributes="member: 12377"><p>My point was, if you attack with a shield are you also wearing it?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Nah, it's no worse than +2 for half cover, +5 for full cover.</p><p></p><p>If you're shield bashing every other round then something is wrong. Shields are not weapons and their primary purpose is to grant AC and their primary drawback is that you can't use that hand for stuff like holding a weapon.</p><p></p><p>If a "shield bash" is a main-hand attack, then sure, let them keep the AC bonus because the only reason you'd ever do that is if you were disarmed and a shield was better than a fist. If it's a bonus off-hand attack via TWF, that seems like you are getting "something for nothing" and every single shield-user is going to bashing every round, and that seems against the grain of 5e to me.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="77IM, post: 6428709, member: 12377"] My point was, if you attack with a shield are you also wearing it? Nah, it's no worse than +2 for half cover, +5 for full cover. If you're shield bashing every other round then something is wrong. Shields are not weapons and their primary purpose is to grant AC and their primary drawback is that you can't use that hand for stuff like holding a weapon. If a "shield bash" is a main-hand attack, then sure, let them keep the AC bonus because the only reason you'd ever do that is if you were disarmed and a shield was better than a fist. If it's a bonus off-hand attack via TWF, that seems like you are getting "something for nothing" and every single shield-user is going to bashing every round, and that seems against the grain of 5e to me. [/QUOTE]
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