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<blockquote data-quote="Dausuul" data-source="post: 6717456" data-attributes="member: 58197">Why would it count as a light weapon? Shields are anything but light.I would allow the shield to count as an improvised weapon. Past debates have persuaded me that it'd even be okay to let the wielder keep the AC bonus; it costs you two feats (Two-Weapon Mastery and Tavern Brawler) to effectively dual-wield sword and board, and I don't feel like +2 AC is an excessive benefit for a two-feat investment. However, asking for the shield to count as &quot;light&quot; is a blatant attempt to exploit the dual wielding rules. Nix on that.The other question is whether you could use the Duelist and Two-Weapon Fighting styles at the same time this way (assuming you find a way to get them both, perhaps by multiclassing or being a high-level Champion fighter). My inclination is to say no; an improvised weapon still counts as a weapon for purposes of Duelist. But I might be persuaded otherwise.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dausuul, post: 6717456, member: 58197"] Why would it count as a light weapon? Shields are anything but light. I would allow the shield to count as an improvised weapon. Past debates have persuaded me that it'd even be okay to let the wielder keep the AC bonus; it costs you two feats (Two-Weapon Mastery and Tavern Brawler) to effectively dual-wield sword and board, and I don't feel like +2 AC is an excessive benefit for a two-feat investment. However, asking for the shield to count as "light" is a blatant attempt to exploit the dual wielding rules. Nix on that. The other question is whether you could use the Duelist and Two-Weapon Fighting styles at the same time this way (assuming you find a way to get them both, perhaps by multiclassing or being a high-level Champion fighter). My inclination is to say no; an improvised weapon still counts as a weapon for purposes of Duelist. But I might be persuaded otherwise. [/QUOTE]

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