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<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 9756222" data-attributes="member: 7030563"><p>Yes you can because you are not taking them on your turn. When I ready the attack action, I take it off turn after the trigger happens.</p><p></p><p>Per the "Ready a spell" rule I must cast the spell on my turn. IF you are saying I must take the Magic Action to cast it then this too would need to happen on my turn.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Not in 5.5E:</p><p></p><p><em>You take the Ready action to wait for a particular circumstance before you act. To do so, <u>you take this action on your turn</u>, which lets you act by taking a Reaction before the start of your next turn.</em></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That is not the only difference. There is an entire paragraph on readying the spell. In short - you must "cast" the spell and expend the resources on your turn and you must maintain concentration until the trigger occurs and you "release" the spell.</p><p></p><p>This is fundamentally different. If you ready the attack action and the trigger never occurs then you never make an attack, if you ready a spell and the trigger never occurs or if you lose concentration you still cast that spell you still are under every effect associated with the casting. If an enemy sees it he can counterspell it on your turn (not on the trigger), he can dispel it on his turn even if the trigger hasn't happened yet. If you are an Abjurerer and it is an Abjuration spell it charges your ward even if the trigger never occurs, because you did cast the spell.</p><p></p><p>This is fundamentally different than if say a Barbarian readies the attack action and never uses it. In this case the attack didn't happen and the Barbarian may suffer the effects of that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 9756222, member: 7030563"] Yes you can because you are not taking them on your turn. When I ready the attack action, I take it off turn after the trigger happens. Per the "Ready a spell" rule I must cast the spell on my turn. IF you are saying I must take the Magic Action to cast it then this too would need to happen on my turn. Not in 5.5E: [I]You take the Ready action to wait for a particular circumstance before you act. To do so, [U]you take this action on your turn[/U], which lets you act by taking a Reaction before the start of your next turn.[/I] That is not the only difference. There is an entire paragraph on readying the spell. In short - you must "cast" the spell and expend the resources on your turn and you must maintain concentration until the trigger occurs and you "release" the spell. This is fundamentally different. If you ready the attack action and the trigger never occurs then you never make an attack, if you ready a spell and the trigger never occurs or if you lose concentration you still cast that spell you still are under every effect associated with the casting. If an enemy sees it he can counterspell it on your turn (not on the trigger), he can dispel it on his turn even if the trigger hasn't happened yet. If you are an Abjurerer and it is an Abjuration spell it charges your ward even if the trigger never occurs, because you did cast the spell. This is fundamentally different than if say a Barbarian readies the attack action and never uses it. In this case the attack didn't happen and the Barbarian may suffer the effects of that. [/QUOTE]
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