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<blockquote data-quote="mamba" data-source="post: 9759794" data-attributes="member: 7034611"><p>yeah, that is where your confusion comes from. It is not a proper action, it is a meta-action / rider on another action, which is why it makes you choose a proper action you actually take. None of the others do that, because they are actual actions…</p><p></p><p>Ready is just grouped here because it is thematically similar and has nowhere else to go…</p><p></p><p></p><p>you <em>are</em> using another action all the time, you never use the Ready action (it also does not tell you what it does, unlike the proper actions, instead it tells you to choose one of those and how that action is changed so it becomes a reaction)… the only difference is with the Magic action you use the actual action on your turn and release the spell effect as a reaction while you perform the other actions as a reaction.</p><p></p><p>This distinction exists so the action is wasted, with all consequences such as losing the spell slot, regardless of whether the trigger occurs.</p><p>If you cast the spell as a reaction and the casting never happened, you would still have your slot. So the difference really only exists to ensure that the same thing happens no matter what proper action you chose to perform as a reaction (ie the action and its resources are lost if the trigger does not occur or are triggered as a reaction when it does)</p><p></p><p>Since 30+ pages have not managed to solve this, I doubt 30 more will either. I have lost interest in repeating the same things over and over, so have fun keeping this going in circles with whoever else still cares, I am out</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mamba, post: 9759794, member: 7034611"] yeah, that is where your confusion comes from. It is not a proper action, it is a meta-action / rider on another action, which is why it makes you choose a proper action you actually take. None of the others do that, because they are actual actions… Ready is just grouped here because it is thematically similar and has nowhere else to go… you [I]are[/I] using another action all the time, you never use the Ready action (it also does not tell you what it does, unlike the proper actions, instead it tells you to choose one of those and how that action is changed so it becomes a reaction)… the only difference is with the Magic action you use the actual action on your turn and release the spell effect as a reaction while you perform the other actions as a reaction. This distinction exists so the action is wasted, with all consequences such as losing the spell slot, regardless of whether the trigger occurs. If you cast the spell as a reaction and the casting never happened, you would still have your slot. So the difference really only exists to ensure that the same thing happens no matter what proper action you chose to perform as a reaction (ie the action and its resources are lost if the trigger does not occur or are triggered as a reaction when it does) Since 30+ pages have not managed to solve this, I doubt 30 more will either. I have lost interest in repeating the same things over and over, so have fun keeping this going in circles with whoever else still cares, I am out [/QUOTE]
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