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<blockquote data-quote="BenjaminPey" data-source="post: 9760231" data-attributes="member: 7039344"><p>I've got nothing against close readings of the rules, really, when that's fruitful and leads to surprising or pleasantly unwelcomed outcomes, but that quoted part, "making sense in the fiction", is the crux, for me, in a ttrpg, the final arbiter in this kind of debates.</p><p></p><p>I get, too, that 5.24 made a move towards a more technical approach to rules that doesn't always align well with a fiction-first mindset, and that such a technical approach may well be the more enjoyable one for some or most players, and I have nothing against that. To each their own. I even acknowledge that it's totally possible that the designers looked at this interaction between Ready Action and Action Surge, thought it out for a little a bit and went "nah, that's fine, let's keep it there". After all, the only groups who will break the game by allowing it will be the exact same groups who will find a thousand other ways to break the game any way, because that's where their fun is at, and that's fine, too. In the vast, vast majority of cases, it will never come up.</p><p></p><p>And for good reasons: because it's purely playing the rules, mastering the system (and maybe one-upping the designers, if not the DM), rather than playing the fiction or the characters. And again, nothing wrong with that. Just, not my jam.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BenjaminPey, post: 9760231, member: 7039344"] I've got nothing against close readings of the rules, really, when that's fruitful and leads to surprising or pleasantly unwelcomed outcomes, but that quoted part, "making sense in the fiction", is the crux, for me, in a ttrpg, the final arbiter in this kind of debates. I get, too, that 5.24 made a move towards a more technical approach to rules that doesn't always align well with a fiction-first mindset, and that such a technical approach may well be the more enjoyable one for some or most players, and I have nothing against that. To each their own. I even acknowledge that it's totally possible that the designers looked at this interaction between Ready Action and Action Surge, thought it out for a little a bit and went "nah, that's fine, let's keep it there". After all, the only groups who will break the game by allowing it will be the exact same groups who will find a thousand other ways to break the game any way, because that's where their fun is at, and that's fine, too. In the vast, vast majority of cases, it will never come up. And for good reasons: because it's purely playing the rules, mastering the system (and maybe one-upping the designers, if not the DM), rather than playing the fiction or the characters. And again, nothing wrong with that. Just, not my jam. [/QUOTE]
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