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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 9761350" data-attributes="member: 42582"><p><a href="https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/br-2024/rules-glossary#MagicAction" target="_blank">The rules say that</a> "When you take the Magic action, you cast a spell that has a casting time of an action or use a feature or magic item that requires a Magic action to be activated." The Reaction that follows readying a spell is neither the casting of a spell (the spell has already been cast, with its energy being held) nor the use of a feature or magic item. So your interpretation requires departing from this bit of rules text.</p><p></p><p>That's not a decisive objection to your interpretation, but it does count against it.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, I don't think the rules are well-enough drafted to support these close readings.</p><p></p><p>For instance, does the <em>additional action</em> from Action Surge have to be taken <em>temporally</em> subsequent to the "one action" that the character can otherwise take on their turn? Or does one perform the addition - so when I use Action Surge I can now take <em>two</em> actions, but one of them may not be the Magic Action. On this latter reading, which to me is more intuitive, a fighter can Action Surge, attack using that additional action, and then cast a spell.</p><p></p><p>Conversely, the idea that I can't use the additional action to (say) cast a spell or activate a magic item, but that I can use it to <em>ready</em> a spell or the activation of a magic item, to me is quite counter-intuitive. I would avoid this counter-intuitive reading by treating the adverbial phrase "on your turn" as qualifying the rules about how many actions you can take on your turn, and then readying the exclusion "except the Magic action" as qualifying the additional action taken, even if that additional action crystallises only via an off-turn Reaction.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 9761350, member: 42582"] [url=https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/br-2024/rules-glossary#MagicAction]The rules say that[/url] "When you take the Magic action, you cast a spell that has a casting time of an action or use a feature or magic item that requires a Magic action to be activated." The Reaction that follows readying a spell is neither the casting of a spell (the spell has already been cast, with its energy being held) nor the use of a feature or magic item. So your interpretation requires departing from this bit of rules text. That's not a decisive objection to your interpretation, but it does count against it. Again, I don't think the rules are well-enough drafted to support these close readings. For instance, does the [I]additional action[/I] from Action Surge have to be taken [I]temporally[/I] subsequent to the "one action" that the character can otherwise take on their turn? Or does one perform the addition - so when I use Action Surge I can now take [I]two[/I] actions, but one of them may not be the Magic Action. On this latter reading, which to me is more intuitive, a fighter can Action Surge, attack using that additional action, and then cast a spell. Conversely, the idea that I can't use the additional action to (say) cast a spell or activate a magic item, but that I can use it to [I]ready[/I] a spell or the activation of a magic item, to me is quite counter-intuitive. I would avoid this counter-intuitive reading by treating the adverbial phrase "on your turn" as qualifying the rules about how many actions you can take on your turn, and then readying the exclusion "except the Magic action" as qualifying the additional action taken, even if that additional action crystallises only via an off-turn Reaction. [/QUOTE]
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