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Using Action Surge to cast spells in 2024
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<blockquote data-quote="Charlaquin" data-source="post: 9761362" data-attributes="member: 6779196"><p>Well, yeah, it does depart from the text of the Magic Action. Because that’s what the Ready Action says to do when you take it, and in D&D specific beats general. When the Magic Action says you do one thing when you take it, and the Ready Action says you can use it to take the Magic Action but it differs from the normal Magic Action in the following ways, the text of the Ready Action wins.</p><p></p><p>Yeah, I misremembered the text of Action Surge. I absolutely agree that the order of the two Actions doesn’t matter according to this text. I think the confusion was due to my experience of Action Surge in actual play, where players generally announce their Action and then announce that they want to use their Action Surge to do XYZ, and when phrased that way I would object to a player saying “I use my Action Surge to cast Fireball” or whatever. Though, I would probably say “but we can just say you used your regular Action to Fireball and your Action Surge to attack” and move on, so <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="🤷♀️" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f937-2640.png" title="Woman shrugging :woman_shrugging:" data-shortname=":woman_shrugging:" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" /></p><p></p><p>Yeah, that would never occur to me, for all the reasons we’ve been discussing. Ready is Ready, no matter what you use it to do as a Reaction, and something you Ready to do as a Reaction is not the additional Action you’re taking on your turn via Action Surge.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Charlaquin, post: 9761362, member: 6779196"] Well, yeah, it does depart from the text of the Magic Action. Because that’s what the Ready Action says to do when you take it, and in D&D specific beats general. When the Magic Action says you do one thing when you take it, and the Ready Action says you can use it to take the Magic Action but it differs from the normal Magic Action in the following ways, the text of the Ready Action wins. Yeah, I misremembered the text of Action Surge. I absolutely agree that the order of the two Actions doesn’t matter according to this text. I think the confusion was due to my experience of Action Surge in actual play, where players generally announce their Action and then announce that they want to use their Action Surge to do XYZ, and when phrased that way I would object to a player saying “I use my Action Surge to cast Fireball” or whatever. Though, I would probably say “but we can just say you used your regular Action to Fireball and your Action Surge to attack” and move on, so 🤷♀️ Yeah, that would never occur to me, for all the reasons we’ve been discussing. Ready is Ready, no matter what you use it to do as a Reaction, and something you Ready to do as a Reaction is not the additional Action you’re taking on your turn via Action Surge. [/QUOTE]
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