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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 9761380" data-attributes="member: 42582"><p>To me, this seems a contentious ruling. I personally don't think that the rules text supports it. Eg <a href="https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/br-2024/rules-glossary#ReadyAction" target="_blank">the Ready rules</a> say "When the trigger occurs, you can either take your Reaction right after the trigger finishes" - if this was meant to include the additional gloss "unless you have readied an attack and it is still your turn", I think that the rules would expressly state as much, given how important it is.</p><p></p><p>Here's a practical example:</p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px">*The opponent is around a corner: the caster PC can see them, but the archer PC cannot.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">*The caster, on their turn, readies a Command spell, intending to tell the opponent to "approach" once the archer PC has raised their bow so as to cover the opponent's approach as they leave cover.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">*The archer, on their turn, readies an attack against the opponent for when they leave cover.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">*The caster now releases their held spell energy, as a Reaction, and the opponent fails their saving throw, and so leaves the cover of the corner. It's still the archer's turn.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">*The archer shoots the opponent, as a Reaction on their turn.</p><p></p><p>This isn't the sort of sequence of actions I'd expect in someone's first ever session of D&D; but with experienced players, in the right circumstances, it's the sort of thing that can happen. To me it doesn't seem broken.</p><p></p><p>I'm curious about [USER=6779196]@Charlaquin[/USER]'s and [USER=6802765]@Xetheral[/USER]'s thoughts.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 9761380, member: 42582"] To me, this seems a contentious ruling. I personally don't think that the rules text supports it. Eg [url=https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/br-2024/rules-glossary#ReadyAction]the Ready rules[/url] say "When the trigger occurs, you can either take your Reaction right after the trigger finishes" - if this was meant to include the additional gloss "unless you have readied an attack and it is still your turn", I think that the rules would expressly state as much, given how important it is. Here's a practical example: [indent]*The opponent is around a corner: the caster PC can see them, but the archer PC cannot. *The caster, on their turn, readies a Command spell, intending to tell the opponent to "approach" once the archer PC has raised their bow so as to cover the opponent's approach as they leave cover. *The archer, on their turn, readies an attack against the opponent for when they leave cover. *The caster now releases their held spell energy, as a Reaction, and the opponent fails their saving throw, and so leaves the cover of the corner. It's still the archer's turn. *The archer shoots the opponent, as a Reaction on their turn.[/indent] This isn't the sort of sequence of actions I'd expect in someone's first ever session of D&D; but with experienced players, in the right circumstances, it's the sort of thing that can happen. To me it doesn't seem broken. I'm curious about [USER=6779196]@Charlaquin[/USER]'s and [USER=6802765]@Xetheral[/USER]'s thoughts. [/QUOTE]
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