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<blockquote data-quote="Xetheral" data-source="post: 9761477" data-attributes="member: 6802765"><p>Your conclusion that "[w]e know you MUST pick another action to ready" is incorrect. At a minimum, it is explicitly possible to ready movement rather than an Action based on the rules text that states: "you choose the action you will take in response to that trigger, or you choose to move up to your speed in response to it." If readying an Action was indeed the only option, then I think there would be a (somewhat) stronger argument that the separate paragraph about readying a spell implicitly provides additional rules that cover readying the Magic action to cast a spell. But readying an Action is <em>not</em> the only option.</p><p></p><p>Ultimately, the text of the Ready Action does not explicitly specify whether the separate paragraph about readying a spell is providing an alternative to readying an Action or readying movement, or whether it is instead providing additional rules that cover readying the Magic Action to cast a spell. I think the former reading is the better reading--the rules presented for readying a spell are complete on their face, and there is thus no need to read into them a unstated dependence on the Magic Action. By contrast, the latter reading's addition of such an unstated dependence on the Magic Action unnecessarily complicates things by not making it clear whether a caster readying a spell takes the Magic action (a) when they cast the spell; (b) when they release the energy; or (c) some combination of the two. (This matters because Action Surge only prohibits taking a Magic action on your turn.)</p><p></p><p>I understand that you disagree with me and think the latter reading is nevertheless the better reading. That's cool! As is often the case, the text could have been written more clearly. But just because we disagree on what is the best reading of the text doesn't mean that either of us are making any unfounded assumptions. We both have good reasons backing up our interpretations.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Xetheral, post: 9761477, member: 6802765"] Your conclusion that "[w]e know you MUST pick another action to ready" is incorrect. At a minimum, it is explicitly possible to ready movement rather than an Action based on the rules text that states: "you choose the action you will take in response to that trigger, or you choose to move up to your speed in response to it." If readying an Action was indeed the only option, then I think there would be a (somewhat) stronger argument that the separate paragraph about readying a spell implicitly provides additional rules that cover readying the Magic action to cast a spell. But readying an Action is [I]not[/I] the only option. Ultimately, the text of the Ready Action does not explicitly specify whether the separate paragraph about readying a spell is providing an alternative to readying an Action or readying movement, or whether it is instead providing additional rules that cover readying the Magic Action to cast a spell. I think the former reading is the better reading--the rules presented for readying a spell are complete on their face, and there is thus no need to read into them a unstated dependence on the Magic Action. By contrast, the latter reading's addition of such an unstated dependence on the Magic Action unnecessarily complicates things by not making it clear whether a caster readying a spell takes the Magic action (a) when they cast the spell; (b) when they release the energy; or (c) some combination of the two. (This matters because Action Surge only prohibits taking a Magic action on your turn.) I understand that you disagree with me and think the latter reading is nevertheless the better reading. That's cool! As is often the case, the text could have been written more clearly. But just because we disagree on what is the best reading of the text doesn't mean that either of us are making any unfounded assumptions. We both have good reasons backing up our interpretations. [/QUOTE]
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