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Message: <blockquote data-quote="TwoSix" data-source="post: 9238018" data-attributes="member: 205">I get that.  I just think that a community-generated term-of-use for the "5e core rules engine", like d20 was for the 3e core rules, is pretty much a non-starter for a 10 year old game that's about to undergo a rules revision.  Especially a rules revision which also doesn't have a single agreed-upon handle.d20 got traction because it was specifically promoted by WotC.  Unless someone comes up with an absolutely perfect term, which manages to encapsulate the nuances of what's being talked about in a pithy little phrase, we'll just continue to see lots of "sort of" terms that try to capture the idea of "non-WotC 5e variants".  Just like "5.5" or "6e" or "5e24" or "D&D 2024" for the new rules revision.</blockquote>