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<blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 3693378" data-attributes="member: 19675">I know a fair amount about a lot of animals, so if I can find the info, I'll use it, and I'll let my players use it.As for Border Collies...I've owned 5 in the past 20+ years.Their high intelligence can also make them difficult to train...they tend to make up rules of their own.One of the 2 I own right now takes an approach to playing in the yard as the combat rules in the Classic Trek episode, &quot;The Gamesters of Triskellion.&quot;&nbsp; Whatever is in the grass, she'll retrieve, but once she gets it onto the concrete, a human has to get it.&nbsp; You can't order her to do otherwise- she just won't budge.She also won't fetch a toy she doesn't want to.&nbsp; If she brings you the rope and you throw the tennis ball, she won't catch it.&nbsp; You can even bounce the ball off of her head, and she'll stay crouched like a furry statue until you throw her the rope.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dannyalcatraz, post: 3693378, member: 19675"] I know a fair amount about a lot of animals, so if I can find the info, I'll use it, and I'll let my players use it. As for Border Collies...I've owned 5 in the past 20+ years. Their high intelligence can also make them difficult to train...they tend to make up rules of their own. One of the 2 I own right now takes an approach to playing in the yard as the combat rules in the Classic Trek episode, "The Gamesters of Triskellion." Whatever is in the grass, she'll retrieve, but once she gets it onto the concrete, a human has to get it. You can't order her to do otherwise- she just won't budge. She also won't fetch a toy she doesn't want to. If she brings you the rope and you throw the tennis ball, she won't catch it. You can even bounce the ball off of her head, and she'll stay crouched like a furry statue until you throw her the rope. [/QUOTE]

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