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<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 9675878" data-attributes="member: 7030563">I guess we just have different play experiences.&nbsp; I've been playing D&amp;D since 1981 and I am currently in 4 regular weekly 5E/2024 games with 3 different groups in addition to other pick up games I play or DM occasionally and I have not experienced that.&nbsp; TBH I have never seen ability scores play a significant role in who is the &quot;star&quot; or character that shines the most.Since you seem to have experienced this frequently, I assume you regularly play in games where PCs roll abilities?While strong abilities do inherently provide certain players with mathematical advantages, those advantages don't overcome or really affect how players exercise or leverage knowledge, creativity, ingenuity or most importantly personality.&nbsp;&nbsp; Those things are more important than ability scores (far more important IME) and the players who leverage them will be the &quot;stars&quot; regardless of their ability scores.&nbsp; I also notice you did not mention personality in terms of being an introvert or an extrovert and that is a BIG driver at the table as well.&nbsp; I don't care what your stats are, if you are the guy or girl at the table who does not want to speak up and wants to mostly sit back and watch, you are not going to be the &quot;star&quot; and if you are the one who wants to talk and take a leading role in every encounter you will be.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 9675878, member: 7030563"] I guess we just have different play experiences. I've been playing D&D since 1981 and I am currently in 4 regular weekly 5E/2024 games with 3 different groups in addition to other pick up games I play or DM occasionally and I have not experienced that. TBH I have never seen ability scores play a significant role in who is the "star" or character that shines the most. Since you seem to have experienced this frequently, I assume you regularly play in games where PCs roll abilities? While strong abilities do inherently provide certain players with mathematical advantages, those advantages don't overcome or really affect how players exercise or leverage knowledge, creativity, ingenuity or most importantly personality. Those things are more important than ability scores (far more important IME) and the players who leverage them will be the "stars" regardless of their ability scores. I also notice you did not mention personality in terms of being an introvert or an extrovert and that is a BIG driver at the table as well. I don't care what your stats are, if you are the guy or girl at the table who does not want to speak up and wants to mostly sit back and watch, you are not going to be the "star" and if you are the one who wants to talk and take a leading role in every encounter you will be. [/QUOTE]

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