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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Flights of Fancy" data-source="post: 9677479" data-attributes="member: 7037975">Sure, it happens, I guess, maybe... for similar PCs but one capped at 20, the other at 14, but like you said it is insanely rare. If it ever did happen, it would probably be hard on the player with the 14 score, sure. It shouldn't impact the DM one iota.Anyway, for one thing, it means not only did the first player roll a nat 18, but the other player rolled 12 or lower all six times. Barring everything else, not many players will play a character with a maximum roll of 12. If that player does choose that, it is their choice and they should realize going into the game their PC will have to shine in ways other than ability scores.It also means the second player decided to make a "similar" PC to the first player, and even after realizing there was another similar character with a much better ability, decided again to play their PC anyway.Lastly, it means the DM also knew about this and didn't encourage the second player to make a different PC so they would as likely be outshined by the first player's PC.Frankly, I don't imagine this ever happening once, let alone a second time (history repeating itself) within the same group. I would hardly call that consistent.Anyway, I don't [USER=7030563]@ECMO3[/USER] is saying it wouldn't be significant, nor am I, we all agree the difference between 20 and 14 would be significant in this circumstances... I just don't see any sane way this situation should ever occur giving the odds not only of the rolls, but the choices made by the players and the even the DM. You claim you've seen such a thing happen so I won't doubt that, but honestly how often really?And you'll probably argue frequency doesn't matter again. But it does. I don't worry about being hit by a bus even though that is significant, sure, because I know it will most likely never happen. So, I won't worry about the lightning-striking odds of two similar PCs with 20 and 14 and a player feeling unpowered next to the "star".Oh, no doubt you can play a CON 10 PC or even lower, like you said you jsut have to play a different way.I've never found this to be the case due to how many ways you can take damage which have nothing to do with AC. But VMMY certainly.</blockquote>

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