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<blockquote data-quote="Rikandur Azebol" data-source="post: 5246621" data-attributes="member: 21755"><p>I agree that Fighters need imagination ... I also alvays houseruled a bit with Fighters. Minor things like 4/lvl skill points or ACTUAL Epic Bonus Feats, at epic levels. To me 1 every odd level sounds about right.</p><p>And overall ... let me reply in kind.</p><p></p><p>Overall I alvays encouraged players to tinker with their classes. For example Duellist Fighter, based on Wuxia Movies:</p><p>Loses all armor proficiences.</p><p>Uses Dex instead of Str for weapon he focuses on.</p><p>Changes skill list slightly. Gains evasion and good Reflex save.</p><p>Gains dodge bonus to AC equal to 1/2 class levels, while wearing no armor.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I stab with my harpoon. Or push it off the cliff. I intimidate these goblins into fearful submission and play Brute Ogre/ Nice Guy with party's bard.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I throw pepper at necromancer's mouth when he starts casting ! I kiss the succubus until she faints. I shield the puny party members and trip ogre on it's kobold minions.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I disarm it or trip it, and then I coup-the-grace it. I take Antimagic field and strangle the evil wizard. I tell cleric that I don't need healing today, my Greater Healing Surge suffices for scratches anyway. I boo this stupid demon until it whimpers and begs cleric for Atonement spell.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p> I win battles before even unsheating my sword. Everybody knows my name by this time, my succubus cohort takes bard levels to better spread my glory across planes. Cleric sermons me about value of life and tries to stop me from accepting all challenges to my martial prowness. Wizard complains when I use trinkets given to me from his jealous colleagues. I don't know why rogue gets everything she wants from people just by saying "Do You know my blood-brother Fred the Broken Sword ?"</p><p></p><p>All in all, I remember that during 2ed I played wizard who took proficiency in Unarmed combat ! And were impersonating "martial artist" with nothing but Tenser's Potions, Jump spell and nice bluffing.</p><p>In short, You don't need exordinary stats to pull all the tricks from above, just don't expect that, like punier charcter classes, all will be handed to You on silver plate. Cheat, think and win. And if You, as player, can't imagine such stuff ... invest in Intimidiate skill.</p><p></p><p>For power-themed characters it's better than diplomacy, and might help if You use it wisely.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rikandur Azebol, post: 5246621, member: 21755"] I agree that Fighters need imagination ... I also alvays houseruled a bit with Fighters. Minor things like 4/lvl skill points or ACTUAL Epic Bonus Feats, at epic levels. To me 1 every odd level sounds about right. And overall ... let me reply in kind. Overall I alvays encouraged players to tinker with their classes. For example Duellist Fighter, based on Wuxia Movies: Loses all armor proficiences. Uses Dex instead of Str for weapon he focuses on. Changes skill list slightly. Gains evasion and good Reflex save. Gains dodge bonus to AC equal to 1/2 class levels, while wearing no armor. I stab with my harpoon. Or push it off the cliff. I intimidate these goblins into fearful submission and play Brute Ogre/ Nice Guy with party's bard. I throw pepper at necromancer's mouth when he starts casting ! I kiss the succubus until she faints. I shield the puny party members and trip ogre on it's kobold minions. I disarm it or trip it, and then I coup-the-grace it. I take Antimagic field and strangle the evil wizard. I tell cleric that I don't need healing today, my Greater Healing Surge suffices for scratches anyway. I boo this stupid demon until it whimpers and begs cleric for Atonement spell. I win battles before even unsheating my sword. Everybody knows my name by this time, my succubus cohort takes bard levels to better spread my glory across planes. Cleric sermons me about value of life and tries to stop me from accepting all challenges to my martial prowness. Wizard complains when I use trinkets given to me from his jealous colleagues. I don't know why rogue gets everything she wants from people just by saying "Do You know my blood-brother Fred the Broken Sword ?" All in all, I remember that during 2ed I played wizard who took proficiency in Unarmed combat ! And were impersonating "martial artist" with nothing but Tenser's Potions, Jump spell and nice bluffing. In short, You don't need exordinary stats to pull all the tricks from above, just don't expect that, like punier charcter classes, all will be handed to You on silver plate. Cheat, think and win. And if You, as player, can't imagine such stuff ... invest in Intimidiate skill. For power-themed characters it's better than diplomacy, and might help if You use it wisely. [/QUOTE]
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