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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Upper_Krust" data-source="post: 5253876" data-attributes="member: 326">Hey Alzrius mate! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />I disagree...I'll explain why momentarily......thats true...many factors which seem irrefutable too... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />...there are many comments I totally understand:- I'm happy with 3E, why should I change- I don't want to spend more money - Time taken to convert stuff from 3E to 4E- I don't want to have to learn a new system- Classes seem too rigid in design- Many 4E books seem very stale and flavourless- I love to tinker and toy with 3E design - you can't do that in 4E to any extent...but equally I think there are a lot opinions that don't make sense to me.- The classes are balanced (somehow cited as a negative)- Superfluous elements like SLA and Feats eradicated from Monster Design- Monster Ranks and Roles too MMORPG-ish- Non-infinite Class Levelling- PCs and Monsters don't use the exact same rules now- Don't like the idea of Encounter/Daily powers, too meta-ish- Removal of save or die mechanicsetc.I'm not patronizing anyone here. Knowledge is the goal. By reading everyones feedback on the matter on what they dislike about 4E and prefer about 3E I can better adapt my work to interest a wider range of people.I never said to anyone, make a case for 3E and I might change from 4E back to 3E. That would be disengenuous. What I am saying is let me better understand your opinions and where appropriate I'll try and incorporate the good elements of 3E you liked into my 4E work, while isolating the poorer elements of 4E.  Everyone's allowed to speak their minds here and be as candid as they wish amigo (obviously basic ENWorld message board rules withstanding).That said you may have misinterpreted specifically why I was asking for feedback and discussion on the topic.Thats only because you know 4E rules while 3E drools! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />But in all seriousness, I value peoples opinions on the matter. I want to listen to feedback such as...- I love it when 3E does [insert reason]or - I hate it when 4E does [insert reason]</blockquote>

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