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<blockquote data-quote="Rikandur Azebol" data-source="post: 5256527" data-attributes="member: 21755"><p>Aloha, U_K !</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Meh, my lvl 20+ campaign was slightly less of a drag before IH.<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p>I just ignored Deity rules from PHB and assigned them proper levels. For example 200 wizard for Mystra. And some funky Epic powers to represent "divine".</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Huh ? As if I remember You said that Your rules stretch the 30 lvls to 70 lvls ... isn't it crazy high ? I know that Jade Flame is ECL 159 but it is still around Intermediate Deity by IH rules. Och and I borrowed 4ed PHB from a friend and will prepare bile-cannons in case something is less customisable than I like. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't know, U_K, simply I don't know. Still I feel that in close-ended Kosmos like 4ed D&D this is around 10 lvls too high. I imagine him be above the Lesser Deities and most Demon Lords. Geez, one of his "followers" is a Demon Lady who is constantly striving to best him in combat after humilating defeat.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Aren't they some sort of Lizardmen ? And what with customised, as per "Son of Dragon", racial features ? Can one change "useless" (1/encounter or 1/day) powers for feats ? Wich are generall always useful.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Huh ? No to deification U_K. We are in club "Gods are too limited".<img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/blush.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":blush:" title="Blush :blush:" data-shortname=":blush:" /></p><p>So ... this "Paragon" Path is something akin to Prestige Class ? </p><p></p><p>If so how it would emulate my fighter's variant class features ? Let him use Dex instead of Str for weapon attacks & damage, for sure. Should give him AC bonus when UNARMORED and NOT SUPRISED and bonus to Reflex saves. I think these are essential features of the variant class.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Swordsaint sounds better than Paragon ED. Epic Destiny ... let me see.</p><p>1-10 Hero (no extras) Fighter focusing on dewastating attacks with Heavy Bladed weapon using reach and quick reflexes to avoid retribution while slashing at all enemies.</p><p></p><p>11-20 Paragon Path - Duellist Path - </p><p></p><p>21-30 Epic Destiny - Warrior Paragon -</p><p></p><p>31-40 "Divine Tier" -skipping the ascension to godhead for those more arrogant, instead becaming Sword Saint like 8 Immortals from Chinese Mythology-</p><p>Anyone interested in what I imagine here should read comix "Celestial Zone" on Mangafox or similiar site with free online comixes.</p><p></p><p>In reality my PC did some clumsy efforts to find Mountain Kun-Lun but was little sucessful and greatly regrets unability to beg martial arts interested Sages for instructions. It drove me to tears when other PC's easily found and befriended some of the Sages. Crazy Monkey and Snow Crane among the most encountered.</p><p></p><p>41-50 "Cosmic Tier" - Amidah - So far my PC have a dream/drive/desire to became best fighter of the universe and seeks best fighters to learn/fight them. Knowing, and liking, Alabaster I see it little nonsensical that sooner or later they will meet.</p><p></p><p>51-60 "Transcendent Tier" - So far I have no plans for such lofty heights, perhaps Amidah will suffice. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></p><p></p><p>U_K, now I'm a bit worried about how to translate Jade Flames soul-items ?</p><p> I poured all Quintessence gained from killing "Gods of Fury"(Yup, we managed to defeat them starting with Umberlee, then this Werewolf god who tried to hide from our dragon ... who replied by turning his whole domain into Lava Field and as far as I remember the Ice Goddess she surrendered and was spared. Talos, the boss of this "pantheon/council" was too tough for us but fool's luck let us defeat him when he caught us off guard, while we were spying in his domain.) and dealing (If players who teleport like crazy while piggy-backing the casters spitting all their mana at enemies could be called "dealing with enemy" instead of "Being flushed") with Umbral Infestation in Astral ... wich is currently called Astral Storm.</p><p></p><p>By the way, in retrospect I might sound like bragging here, but I always get excited when reminding myself of the most climatic events of this campaign. </p><p></p><p>Harcore Gamers ? I'm nerd and [CENSORED] with foulmouth. Please, don't start flamewar here. I beg You to not cast "Summon Lernean Troll", preety please ? With sugar on top.<img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/devious.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":]" title="Devious :]" data-shortname=":]" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rikandur Azebol, post: 5256527, member: 21755"] Aloha, U_K ! Meh, my lvl 20+ campaign was slightly less of a drag before IH.;) I just ignored Deity rules from PHB and assigned them proper levels. For example 200 wizard for Mystra. And some funky Epic powers to represent "divine". Huh ? As if I remember You said that Your rules stretch the 30 lvls to 70 lvls ... isn't it crazy high ? I know that Jade Flame is ECL 159 but it is still around Intermediate Deity by IH rules. Och and I borrowed 4ed PHB from a friend and will prepare bile-cannons in case something is less customisable than I like. :p I don't know, U_K, simply I don't know. Still I feel that in close-ended Kosmos like 4ed D&D this is around 10 lvls too high. I imagine him be above the Lesser Deities and most Demon Lords. Geez, one of his "followers" is a Demon Lady who is constantly striving to best him in combat after humilating defeat. Aren't they some sort of Lizardmen ? And what with customised, as per "Son of Dragon", racial features ? Can one change "useless" (1/encounter or 1/day) powers for feats ? Wich are generall always useful. Huh ? No to deification U_K. We are in club "Gods are too limited".:blush: So ... this "Paragon" Path is something akin to Prestige Class ? If so how it would emulate my fighter's variant class features ? Let him use Dex instead of Str for weapon attacks & damage, for sure. Should give him AC bonus when UNARMORED and NOT SUPRISED and bonus to Reflex saves. I think these are essential features of the variant class. Swordsaint sounds better than Paragon ED. Epic Destiny ... let me see. 1-10 Hero (no extras) Fighter focusing on dewastating attacks with Heavy Bladed weapon using reach and quick reflexes to avoid retribution while slashing at all enemies. 11-20 Paragon Path - Duellist Path - 21-30 Epic Destiny - Warrior Paragon - 31-40 "Divine Tier" -skipping the ascension to godhead for those more arrogant, instead becaming Sword Saint like 8 Immortals from Chinese Mythology- Anyone interested in what I imagine here should read comix "Celestial Zone" on Mangafox or similiar site with free online comixes. In reality my PC did some clumsy efforts to find Mountain Kun-Lun but was little sucessful and greatly regrets unability to beg martial arts interested Sages for instructions. It drove me to tears when other PC's easily found and befriended some of the Sages. Crazy Monkey and Snow Crane among the most encountered. 41-50 "Cosmic Tier" - Amidah - So far my PC have a dream/drive/desire to became best fighter of the universe and seeks best fighters to learn/fight them. Knowing, and liking, Alabaster I see it little nonsensical that sooner or later they will meet. 51-60 "Transcendent Tier" - So far I have no plans for such lofty heights, perhaps Amidah will suffice. :p U_K, now I'm a bit worried about how to translate Jade Flames soul-items ? I poured all Quintessence gained from killing "Gods of Fury"(Yup, we managed to defeat them starting with Umberlee, then this Werewolf god who tried to hide from our dragon ... who replied by turning his whole domain into Lava Field and as far as I remember the Ice Goddess she surrendered and was spared. Talos, the boss of this "pantheon/council" was too tough for us but fool's luck let us defeat him when he caught us off guard, while we were spying in his domain.) and dealing (If players who teleport like crazy while piggy-backing the casters spitting all their mana at enemies could be called "dealing with enemy" instead of "Being flushed") with Umbral Infestation in Astral ... wich is currently called Astral Storm. By the way, in retrospect I might sound like bragging here, but I always get excited when reminding myself of the most climatic events of this campaign. Harcore Gamers ? I'm nerd and [CENSORED] with foulmouth. Please, don't start flamewar here. I beg You to not cast "Summon Lernean Troll", preety please ? With sugar on top.:] [/QUOTE]
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