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<blockquote data-quote="Pbartender" data-source="post: 4615068" data-attributes="member: 7533"><p>Sorry, Hyp, if I misread... I must have been dazzled by your extensive array of examples. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> On first glance, they seemed focused toward the limitations of who can use wand powers.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>But, even that's not quite the question I was asking...</p><p></p><p>I know that a Cleric cannot use a wand, just because he has access to a Wizard power. That much is plainly clear in the rulebook. Here a better example of the situation I'm looking at:</p><p></p><p>The Cleric class grants the use of of Holy Symbols as Implements. The Wizard class grants the use of Orbs, Staves, and Wands as Implements. Outside of any other special conditions or considerations, if a Cleric is granted a Wizard power(s) by any external source (magic items, feats, etc...) can the Cleric normally use his Holy Symbol as an Implement with those Wizard powers.</p><p></p><p>The answer is no, because his "Implement" class ability specifies that he can only use his implement with Cleric powers -- the specific Implement you use has nothing to do with it. For that matter, the Cleric cannot even use it with Paladin powers with the Implement keyword, even though Paladins also use Holy Symbols as their Implements.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Pbartender, post: 4615068, member: 7533"] Sorry, Hyp, if I misread... I must have been dazzled by your extensive array of examples. ;) On first glance, they seemed focused toward the limitations of who can use wand powers. But, even that's not quite the question I was asking... I know that a Cleric cannot use a wand, just because he has access to a Wizard power. That much is plainly clear in the rulebook. Here a better example of the situation I'm looking at: The Cleric class grants the use of of Holy Symbols as Implements. The Wizard class grants the use of Orbs, Staves, and Wands as Implements. Outside of any other special conditions or considerations, if a Cleric is granted a Wizard power(s) by any external source (magic items, feats, etc...) can the Cleric normally use his Holy Symbol as an Implement with those Wizard powers. The answer is no, because his "Implement" class ability specifies that he can only use his implement with Cleric powers -- the specific Implement you use has nothing to do with it. For that matter, the Cleric cannot even use it with Paladin powers with the Implement keyword, even though Paladins also use Holy Symbols as their Implements. [/QUOTE]
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