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<blockquote data-quote="Particle_Man" data-source="post: 1267880" data-attributes="member: 892">Another thought.Except for Con damage or &quot;Save or die&quot; poison (like the green ray on Prismatic Spray), most poisons actually cannot kill anyone, ever.&nbsp; At the absolute worst, Str, Dex, Int, Wis, and Chr poisons leave someone helpless (so they need to be cared for) but then, after some days of rest, they will get better.So I can't see why a &quot;poisons can only kill people&quot; argument works in D&amp;D terms.&nbsp; Except for the Con damage poison or the (very rare) save or die poisons, it is impossible to kill someone with only poison.&nbsp; At best, most poisons would function like the 3.0 hold person spell, and set someone up to easily killed.So anyhow, maybe there should be a difference between poisons that can kill and poisons that cannot kill, no matter how much of the latter is ingested.So one could leave little kids with a vial of chr draining poison, and at worst, the poor little catatonic kids would be in the hospital for a week or so (with the exceptions, once again, for those very rare poisons that do permanent ability score damage - for those you need a high-level cleric).&nbsp; Nasty, but not fatal.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Particle_Man, post: 1267880, member: 892"] Another thought. Except for Con damage or "Save or die" poison (like the green ray on Prismatic Spray), most poisons actually cannot kill anyone, ever. At the absolute worst, Str, Dex, Int, Wis, and Chr poisons leave someone helpless (so they need to be cared for) but then, after some days of rest, they will get better. So I can't see why a "poisons can only kill people" argument works in D&D terms. Except for the Con damage poison or the (very rare) save or die poisons, it is impossible to kill someone with only poison. At best, most poisons would function like the 3.0 hold person spell, and set someone up to easily killed. So anyhow, maybe there should be a difference between poisons that can kill and poisons that cannot kill, no matter how much of the latter is ingested. So one could leave little kids with a vial of chr draining poison, and at worst, the poor little catatonic kids would be in the hospital for a week or so (with the exceptions, once again, for those very rare poisons that do permanent ability score damage - for those you need a high-level cleric). Nasty, but not fatal. [/QUOTE]

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