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Message: <blockquote data-quote="gfunk" data-source="post: 318868" data-attributes="member: 1813">My group has simply concluded that Polymorph Self and Polymorph Other were simply broken and we all voted (unanimously I might add) to ban it.I was the main culprit actually.  When my sorcerer hit level 8 she picked up Polymorph Other and prior to our dungeon crawls we would all polymorph into Trolls and gain the following:+ 7 Natural Armor23 Str23 Con (though hp were unchanged)14 DexLarge size + 10' reach90' DarkvisionAlways considered armed (natural weapons)In addition, since Trolls are of the type Giants, they keep all of their equipment as per the Polymorph Other spell description.We were simply breezing through adventures crushing everything in our way.  In the unlikely event that the spell was dispelled, my Sor could simply re-cast it on the same round or the next.We played this way for quite some time before we realized that no one was having fun, so we stopped.I'm not sure if this is what you're looking for, but this is how we handled it.P.S. You are correct about natural armor and armor bonuses stacking.</blockquote>