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<blockquote data-quote="IceBear" data-source="post: 322946" data-attributes="member: 1118">Ok, but I still see a constrict attack as natural - that's what hong meant by a constrictor using magic to kill something, he was being sarcastic.&nbsp; Many people feel that if an attack mimics something that a present day animal can do (without causing you to break bits off your body - like poison) then it should be a natural ability - constriction, pouncing, raking, etc.Anyway, whether or not you allow someone to constrict or not isn't the reason these spells need tuning, it's the natual AC, abilitiy modifiers and duration.I think I'll lower the duration of PS to something similar to 2nd Edition (but allow you to switch forms multiple times) and use a similar system to 2nd Edition PO with regards to death and losing your mind.&nbsp; That should be enough to prevent the entire party walking around as Trolls all the time.&nbsp; As it stands now, I think the entire world would become Trolls as it's so advantageous over being a human <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />IceBear</blockquote>

[QUOTE="IceBear, post: 322946, member: 1118"] Ok, but I still see a constrict attack as natural - that's what hong meant by a constrictor using magic to kill something, he was being sarcastic. Many people feel that if an attack mimics something that a present day animal can do (without causing you to break bits off your body - like poison) then it should be a natural ability - constriction, pouncing, raking, etc. Anyway, whether or not you allow someone to constrict or not isn't the reason these spells need tuning, it's the natual AC, abilitiy modifiers and duration. I think I'll lower the duration of PS to something similar to 2nd Edition (but allow you to switch forms multiple times) and use a similar system to 2nd Edition PO with regards to death and losing your mind. That should be enough to prevent the entire party walking around as Trolls all the time. As it stands now, I think the entire world would become Trolls as it's so advantageous over being a human :) IceBear [/QUOTE]

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