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<blockquote data-quote="Horwath" data-source="post: 8471883" data-attributes="member: 6801299">Intimidation should be looked as an attack vs PC. It might not be direct attack, but you are conveying message that you would do such a thing if your &quot;suggestions&quot; are not listened to. Treat is as any other PvP conflict.Persuasion should not be used at all, maybe if party gets into the &quot;paralysis of analysis&quot; with 2 or more viable ideas how to resolve a problem. Then higher persuasion might get used to solve a deadlock.Perform; who cares...Deception; should be used as vs NPC. &quot;lying&quot; PC should roll Deception VS passive Insight. Believable/minor lies might get advantage on the check.Other players could(should) go along with it and say that they believe each other on general basis and take a -5 to Passive Insight.Players could also say that they generally do not believe their fellow PCs and might get +5 on passive insight bonus, but to me it's just bad manners and asking for PvP, without directly asking for it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Horwath, post: 8471883, member: 6801299"] Intimidation should be looked as an attack vs PC. It might not be direct attack, but you are conveying message that you would do such a thing if your "suggestions" are not listened to. Treat is as any other PvP conflict. Persuasion should not be used at all, maybe if party gets into the "paralysis of analysis" with 2 or more viable ideas how to resolve a problem. Then higher persuasion might get used to solve a deadlock. Perform; who cares... Deception; should be used as vs NPC. "lying" PC should roll Deception VS passive Insight. Believable/minor lies might get advantage on the check. Other players could(should) go along with it and say that they believe each other on general basis and take a -5 to Passive Insight. Players could also say that they generally do not believe their fellow PCs and might get +5 on passive insight bonus, but to me it's just bad manners and asking for PvP, without directly asking for it. [/QUOTE]

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