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<blockquote data-quote="HammerMan" data-source="post: 8472411" data-attributes="member: 84112"><p>I didn't say it was. I said it was provided, not by me... others share my stance.</p><p></p><p>it is a quote on how a skill works, unless you can show me an exception where NPCs treat skills diffrent?</p><p></p><p>no I can't show you the DC setting rule, I can try to google it, but since I don't use the book for it (as I have explained) I don't really remember it too well...</p><p></p><p>wow found it right away</p><h4>Typical Difficulty Classes</h4> <table style='width: 100%'><tr><th>Task Difficulty</th><th>DC</th></tr><tr><td>Very easy</td><td>5</td></tr><tr><td>Easy</td><td>10</td></tr><tr><td>Medium</td><td>15</td></tr><tr><td>Hard</td><td>20</td></tr><tr><td>Very hard</td><td>25</td></tr><tr><td>Nearly impossible</td><td>30</td></tr></table><p>To make an ability check, roll a d20 and add the relevant ability modifier. As with other d20 rolls, apply bonuses and penalties, and compare the total to the DC. If the total equals or exceeds the DC, the ability check is a success--the creature overcomes the challenge at hand. Otherwise, it's a failure, which means the character or monster makes no progress toward the objective or makes progress combined with a setback determined by the GM.</p><h2>Contests</h2><p>Sometimes one character's or monster's efforts are directly opposed to another's. This can occur when both of them are trying to do the same thing and only one can succeed, such as attempting to snatch up a magic ring that has fallen on the floor. This situation also applies when one of them is trying to prevent the other one from accomplishing a goal--for example, when a monster tries to force open a door that an adventurer is holding closed. In situations like these, the outcome is determined by a special form of ability check, called a contest.</p><p>Both participants in a contest make ability checks appropriate to their efforts. They apply all appropriate bonuses and penalties, but instead of comparing the total to a DC, they compare the totals of their two checks. The participant with the higher check total wins the contest. That character or monster either succeeds at the action or prevents the other one from succeeding.</p><p>If the contest results in a tie, the situation remains the same as it was before the contest. Thus, one contestant might win the contest by default. If two characters tie in a contest to snatch a ring off the floor, neither character grabs it. In a contest between a monster trying to open a door and an adventurer trying to keep the door closed, a tie means that the door remains shut.</p><h2>Skills</h2><p>Each ability covers a broad range of capabilities, including skills that a character or a monster can be proficient in. A skill represents a specific aspect of an ability score, and an individual's proficiency in a skill demonstrates a focus on that aspect. (A character's starting skill proficiencies are determined at character creation, and a monster's skill proficiencies appear in the monster's stat block.)</p><p>For example, a Dexterity check might reflect a character's attempt to pull off an acrobatic stunt, to palm an object, or to stay hidden. Each of these aspects of Dexterity has an associated skill: Acrobatics, Sleight of Hand, and Stealth, respectively. So a character who has proficiency in the Stealth skill is particularly good at Dexterity checks related to sneaking and hiding.</p><p>The skills related to each ability score are shown in the following list. (No skills are related to Constitution.) See an ability's description in the later sections of this section for examples of how to use a skill associated with an ability.</p><h3>Strength</h3> <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Athletics</li> </ul><h3>Dexterity</h3> <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Acrobatics</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Sleight of Hand</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Stealth</li> </ul><h3>Intelligence</h3> <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Arcana</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">History</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Investigation</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Nature</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Religion</li> </ul><h3>Wisdom</h3> <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Animal Handling</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Insight</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Medicine</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Perception</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Survival</li> </ul><h3>Charisma</h3> <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Deception</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Intimidation</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Performance</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Persuasion</li> </ul></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="HammerMan, post: 8472411, member: 84112"] I didn't say it was. I said it was provided, not by me... others share my stance. it is a quote on how a skill works, unless you can show me an exception where NPCs treat skills diffrent? no I can't show you the DC setting rule, I can try to google it, but since I don't use the book for it (as I have explained) I don't really remember it too well... wow found it right away [HEADING=3]Typical Difficulty Classes[/HEADING] [TABLE] [TR] [TH]Task Difficulty[/TH] [TH]DC[/TH] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Very easy[/TD] [TD]5[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Easy[/TD] [TD]10[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Medium[/TD] [TD]15[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Hard[/TD] [TD]20[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Very hard[/TD] [TD]25[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Nearly impossible[/TD] [TD]30[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] To make an ability check, roll a d20 and add the relevant ability modifier. As with other d20 rolls, apply bonuses and penalties, and compare the total to the DC. If the total equals or exceeds the DC, the ability check is a success--the creature overcomes the challenge at hand. Otherwise, it's a failure, which means the character or monster makes no progress toward the objective or makes progress combined with a setback determined by the GM. [HEADING=1]Contests[/HEADING] Sometimes one character's or monster's efforts are directly opposed to another's. This can occur when both of them are trying to do the same thing and only one can succeed, such as attempting to snatch up a magic ring that has fallen on the floor. This situation also applies when one of them is trying to prevent the other one from accomplishing a goal--for example, when a monster tries to force open a door that an adventurer is holding closed. In situations like these, the outcome is determined by a special form of ability check, called a contest. Both participants in a contest make ability checks appropriate to their efforts. They apply all appropriate bonuses and penalties, but instead of comparing the total to a DC, they compare the totals of their two checks. The participant with the higher check total wins the contest. That character or monster either succeeds at the action or prevents the other one from succeeding. If the contest results in a tie, the situation remains the same as it was before the contest. Thus, one contestant might win the contest by default. If two characters tie in a contest to snatch a ring off the floor, neither character grabs it. In a contest between a monster trying to open a door and an adventurer trying to keep the door closed, a tie means that the door remains shut. [HEADING=1]Skills[/HEADING] Each ability covers a broad range of capabilities, including skills that a character or a monster can be proficient in. A skill represents a specific aspect of an ability score, and an individual's proficiency in a skill demonstrates a focus on that aspect. (A character's starting skill proficiencies are determined at character creation, and a monster's skill proficiencies appear in the monster's stat block.) For example, a Dexterity check might reflect a character's attempt to pull off an acrobatic stunt, to palm an object, or to stay hidden. Each of these aspects of Dexterity has an associated skill: Acrobatics, Sleight of Hand, and Stealth, respectively. So a character who has proficiency in the Stealth skill is particularly good at Dexterity checks related to sneaking and hiding. The skills related to each ability score are shown in the following list. (No skills are related to Constitution.) See an ability's description in the later sections of this section for examples of how to use a skill associated with an ability. [HEADING=2]Strength[/HEADING] [LIST] [*]Athletics [/LIST] [HEADING=2]Dexterity[/HEADING] [LIST] [*]Acrobatics [*]Sleight of Hand [*]Stealth [/LIST] [HEADING=2]Intelligence[/HEADING] [LIST] [*]Arcana [*]History [*]Investigation [*]Nature [*]Religion [/LIST] [HEADING=2]Wisdom[/HEADING] [LIST] [*]Animal Handling [*]Insight [*]Medicine [*]Perception [*]Survival [/LIST] [HEADING=2]Charisma[/HEADING] [LIST] [*]Deception [*]Intimidation [*]Performance [*]Persuasion [/LIST] [/QUOTE]
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