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Message: <blockquote data-quote="clearstream" data-source="post: 8473588" data-attributes="member: 71699">We don't want to say that the monster attack is uncertain just because there is an attack roll, but rather there is an attack roll because it is uncertain. Similarly, we don't want to say that the character attack is uncertain just because there is an attack roll, but rather there is an attack roll because it is uncertain. If the character misses, the roll overruled what they decided to do.Both cases end up being a DM call as to what is uncertain. Neither has better ground in granting player determination over what their character does. The player can't say - oh, the monster doesn't attack me. Nor can they say - oh, the monster doesn't try to intimidate me.</blockquote>