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<blockquote data-quote="HammerMan" data-source="post: 8474155" data-attributes="member: 84112">I don't know what it is, but sometimes I feel you guys and I need a translator. in general no.in general there is a threshold set (called a DC, and normally by the DM) you need to meet or exceed that to succeed. However (and yes now we are in interpreting, house ruleing and rule calling) with ANY check there is a difference between &quot;not even close&quot;, &quot;almost but not good enough&quot;, &quot;Just barely did it&quot;, and &quot;Wow, you made that look easy.&quot;are there times where some DMs use a sliding scale and roll with no DC in mind... most likely, but we are not talking about that. we are talking about successes on the checks.lets say I make the DC to intimidate a default Wis score with some creature adding there cha mod to it (I don't this is just so we don't argue DCs I just made this up now) So an orc with a wis and cha of 10 is DC 10 (by my house rules an auto success for anyone trained in the skill, because I don't call for non combat rolls below an 11)&nbsp; but lets remove my house rule.&nbsp; the PC RPs a great intimidate and I tell them to roll... the biniary is DC10 or not (my close,bad good not withstanding) so they roll and get a 10 or higher or they don't... I then RP the orc as Intimidated. Now if in the above roll the player WANTED to intimidate the orc to run, I might just say &quot;Okay&quot; but I also might say &quot;sorry Urghie is a character and I know his mindset, when intimidated he lashes out...so he is about to punch you, roll initative.&nbsp; correct, they have 100% control of there reaction, and them reacting to a 23 should (and 99% of the time is) diffrent then there reaction to a 7 is... even though both are result are possible for a +5 intimidate (3 prof 2 cha) to roll.I agree. it works or it doesn't. you just don't get to say to the DM what working looks like (and same to DM to player or player to player)I see no diffrence in the base, I acknowladge that my degree of success is a house rule.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="HammerMan, post: 8474155, member: 84112"] I don't know what it is, but sometimes I feel you guys and I need a translator. in general no. in general there is a threshold set (called a DC, and normally by the DM) you need to meet or exceed that to succeed. However (and yes now we are in interpreting, house ruleing and rule calling) with ANY check there is a difference between "not even close", "almost but not good enough", "Just barely did it", and "Wow, you made that look easy." are there times where some DMs use a sliding scale and roll with no DC in mind... most likely, but we are not talking about that. we are talking about successes on the checks. lets say I make the DC to intimidate a default Wis score with some creature adding there cha mod to it (I don't this is just so we don't argue DCs I just made this up now) So an orc with a wis and cha of 10 is DC 10 (by my house rules an auto success for anyone trained in the skill, because I don't call for non combat rolls below an 11) but lets remove my house rule. the PC RPs a great intimidate and I tell them to roll... the biniary is DC10 or not (my close,bad good not withstanding) so they roll and get a 10 or higher or they don't... I then RP the orc as Intimidated. Now if in the above roll the player WANTED to intimidate the orc to run, I might just say "Okay" but I also might say "sorry Urghie is a character and I know his mindset, when intimidated he lashes out...so he is about to punch you, roll initative. correct, they have 100% control of there reaction, and them reacting to a 23 should (and 99% of the time is) diffrent then there reaction to a 7 is... even though both are result are possible for a +5 intimidate (3 prof 2 cha) to roll. I agree. it works or it doesn't. you just don't get to say to the DM what working looks like (and same to DM to player or player to player) I see no diffrence in the base, I acknowladge that my degree of success is a house rule. [/QUOTE]

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