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Message: <blockquote data-quote="iserith" data-source="post: 8474592" data-attributes="member: 97077">Again, the only way to get to your position is ignoring rules that are inconvenient. And, also again, that's fine at the table. Not fine in a discussion about what the rules say.The orc is attempting to intimidate the PCs for some purpose. There is no roll here since the player decides the outcome of that attempt to intimidate the PC. You are rolling for flavor or color. Again, fine, but not supported by the rules.I don't know what you mean by the bolded sentence. Nothing breaks in my game. The rules support it. Everything runs smoothly.Technically, the only RAI that matters is what the designers say since they are the ones that wrote the rules with intention. We can surmise RAI and we can point out RAW. As [USER=23751]@Maxperson[/USER] says, if you say RAW is something other than it is, you'll get pushback.</blockquote>