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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 8475864" data-attributes="member: 23751"><p>Not that don't involve specific exceptions or contradictions like Charm Person and Menacing Strike.</p><p></p><p>The specific beats general precedents are NOT precedents that show that normal social skills will work on PCs. They only set precedent that other specific abilities that generate specific exceptions or contradictions can override the player decides.</p><p></p><p>No, but you are misinterpreting it. There are no exceptions or contradictions in the social skills that override the player decides. So while you can use them, it's up to the player to decide if they work or not.</p><p></p><p>You keep using a False Equivalence as your "example," though. Charm Person and the like are NOT the precedents you are looking for. No such precedent exists. You can't find anywhere an example of a social skill robbing the player of his right to decide.</p><p></p><p>Show me then. Show me one example(precedent) of a social skill being used on a PC and forcing that player to have his PC think or behave in a manner he doesn't want to.</p><p></p><p>Oh come off it. You know darn well I was talking about imagined physical acts within the game world.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 8475864, member: 23751"] Not that don't involve specific exceptions or contradictions like Charm Person and Menacing Strike. The specific beats general precedents are NOT precedents that show that normal social skills will work on PCs. They only set precedent that other specific abilities that generate specific exceptions or contradictions can override the player decides. No, but you are misinterpreting it. There are no exceptions or contradictions in the social skills that override the player decides. So while you can use them, it's up to the player to decide if they work or not. You keep using a False Equivalence as your "example," though. Charm Person and the like are NOT the precedents you are looking for. No such precedent exists. You can't find anywhere an example of a social skill robbing the player of his right to decide. Show me then. Show me one example(precedent) of a social skill being used on a PC and forcing that player to have his PC think or behave in a manner he doesn't want to. Oh come off it. You know darn well I was talking about imagined physical acts within the game world. [/QUOTE]
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